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RebeL9
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Registered: Nov 2001
Location: Gothenburg, Sweden

that was seriously the coolest typo I have ever seen.


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Trance O Matic
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Registered: Nov 2004
Location: Brooklyn

I'm not embarrassed to say I like trance but I always make a point of adding that its Chris Lawrence style, not AVB or Above and Beyond.

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Kinezi
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I always keeps my love for the music of trance a secret, this one time i told people i love trance and they all laughed at me and started kicking my butt, than one guy pulled down my pants in front of all other girls, before i knew someone else pulled my jockey down too.. i was so embarrassed of loving trance that day i cant even say.

ps: i quickly pulled up my pants and left the house party. Since than i never listen to house music.


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Zak McKracken
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trance/techno in public = scooter
its better to say house or just electronica

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Domesticated
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Over the past 18 months or so I have interviewed quite a few trance personalities and a smattering of people from other scenes, and what always strikes me about the club trance producers is how fucking clueless they are about electronic music as a whole.

Usually they drop the name of a producer they see as credible, such as Jean-Michel Jarre, and then claim that this person influenced them. After that, they proceed to show their ignorance of the history and contemporary state of electronic music by saying that their tracks have a big techno or house influence or some other complete garbage. When I make this statement I'm thinking mainly of Dutch trance DJs under the age of 30. In contrast, the psy-trance, techno and house producers seem to be quite aware of where electronic music has come from and what the scenes they are not part of are like. A lot of the time, these more knowledgeable people used to produce trance themselves.

It seems to me that for a lot of people, trance is an introduction to electronic music and a fairly infantile one at that. All the serious people seem to move on to more creative and diverse genres, while the clueless idiots who should have stuck with pop/rock continue listening to trance. Again I'm talking about that Dutch under-30 bracket. This is funny because here in Melbourne, it's the complete opposite. Most people seem to cut their teeth on commercial house, and it's only when they've adjusted to the repetition and speed of that music that they move on to trance, which is perceived as more obnoxious and harder to appreciate.


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RebeL9
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Registered: Nov 2001
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quote:
Originally posted by Domesticated
Over the past 18 months or so I have interviewed quite a few trance personalities and a smattering of people from other scenes, and what always strikes me about the club trance producers is how fucking clueless they are about electronic music as a whole.

Usually they drop the name of a producer they see as credible, such as Jean-Michel Jarre, and then claim that this person influenced them. After that, they proceed to show their ignorance of the history and contemporary state of electronic music by saying that their tracks have a big techno or house influence or some other complete garbage. When I make this statement I'm thinking mainly of Dutch trance DJs under the age of 30. In contrast, the psy-trance, techno and house producers seem to be quite aware of where electronic music has come from and what the scenes they are not part of are like. A lot of the time, these more knowledgeable people used to produce trance themselves.

It seems to me that for a lot of people, trance is an introduction to electronic music and a fairly infantile one at that. All the serious people seem to move on to more creative and diverse genres, while the clueless idiots who should have stuck with pop/rock continue listening to trance. Again I'm talking about that Dutch under-30 bracket. This is funny because here in Melbourne, it's the complete opposite. Most people seem to cut their teeth on commercial house, and it's only when they've adjusted to the repetition and speed of that music that they move on to trance, which is perceived as more obnoxious and harder to appreciate.


I also get that impression of young dutch djs. Often very clueless.


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Trance-M
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Registered: Oct 2005
Location: Limburg, Netherlands

quote:
Originally posted by Domesticated
When I make this statement I'm thinking mainly of Dutch trance DJs under the age of 30.


Never knew there were that many young Dutch Trance DJ's.
How many DJ's did you interview?
And were these non-trance DJ's also under 30 (and Dutch)?

Also I don't get why you should have a lot of knowledge of the scenes where you are not part of. Maybe knowledge of the scene were you are part of even isn't necessary. DJ's need to enjoy crowds, not much more IMO.

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All the serious people seem to move on to more creative and diverse genres, while the clueless idiots who should have stuck with pop/rock continue listening to trance.


Sorry, but IMO you're really talking bullshit here. Ever heard of taste or enjoying dancing?
Ever thought that people who like trance also enjoy other genres?


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SYSTEM-J
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quote:
Originally posted by Trance-MB
Ever heard of taste...


I've heard yours is terrible.


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euphoria_ibiza
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i had alot troubles earlier with my friends..relationships etc
but it doesn't matter i never been embarrased..nothing can beat the trance music if there something u really like u still like it even the
sound abit changed..


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quote:
Originally posted by Trance-MB
Never knew there were that many young Dutch Trance DJ's.
How many DJ's did you interview?
And were these non-trance DJ's also under 30 (and Dutch)?

Also I don't get why you should have a lot of knowledge of the scenes where you are not part of. Maybe knowledge of the scene were you are part of even isn't necessary. DJ's need to enjoy crowds, not much more IMO.



Sorry, but IMO you're really talking bullshit here. Ever heard of taste or enjoying dancing?
Ever thought that people who like trance also enjoy other genres?


Having knowledge of where the music you play stems from is very important if you want to progress your sound into something more unique. Knowledge is a good thing. You can never have enough of it especially if as an artist you want to expand your sound to do something that hasn't been done before or blend styles that had yet to be blended.

No ones saying know everything about every genre, just be aware of them.

Just my opinion.

The comment about dutch trance DJ's has truth to it and it stems from incidents where Tiesto or Armin begin to call the tracks they produce or play "Minimal" or "Techno" where in most cases thats farthest from the truth.

No one said don't go out and have fun dancing either.


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Trance-M
Since 1994 tranceaddict



Registered: Oct 2005
Location: Limburg, Netherlands

quote:
Originally posted by Dj Minaya
Having knowledge of where the music you play stems from is very important if you want to progress your sound into something more unique. Knowledge is a good thing. You can never have enough of it especially if as an artist you want to expand your sound to do something that hasn't been done before or blend styles that had yet to be blended.


I don't think a DJ really needs that, but for a producer I think you're right.

quote:

The comment about dutch trance DJ's has truth to it and it stems from incidents where Tiesto or Armin begin to call the tracks they produce or play "Minimal" or "Techno" where in most cases thats farthest from the truth.


Tiesto and Armin are way over 30. But Armin and also Ferry still look young

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No one said don't go out and have fun dancing either.


You said "while the clueless idiots who should have stuck with pop/rock continue listening to trance".
I guess many of those idiots just listen trance because they enjoy dancing and have fun. Probably they only listen it in the weekends.


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Trance-M
Since 1994 tranceaddict



Registered: Oct 2005
Location: Limburg, Netherlands

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
I've heard yours is terrible.


You have a hearing problem. I don't have taste, so difficult to hear someone talk about it...


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