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Zak McKracken
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trance/techno in public = scooter
its better to say house or just electronica
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Oct-04-2009 11:36
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Domesticated
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Over the past 18 months or so I have interviewed quite a few trance personalities and a smattering of people from other scenes, and what always strikes me about the club trance producers is how fucking clueless they are about electronic music as a whole.
Usually they drop the name of a producer they see as credible, such as Jean-Michel Jarre, and then claim that this person influenced them. After that, they proceed to show their ignorance of the history and contemporary state of electronic music by saying that their tracks have a big techno or house influence or some other complete garbage. When I make this statement I'm thinking mainly of Dutch trance DJs under the age of 30. In contrast, the psy-trance, techno and house producers seem to be quite aware of where electronic music has come from and what the scenes they are not part of are like. A lot of the time, these more knowledgeable people used to produce trance themselves.
It seems to me that for a lot of people, trance is an introduction to electronic music and a fairly infantile one at that. All the serious people seem to move on to more creative and diverse genres, while the clueless idiots who should have stuck with pop/rock continue listening to trance. Again I'm talking about that Dutch under-30 bracket. This is funny because here in Melbourne, it's the complete opposite. Most people seem to cut their teeth on commercial house, and it's only when they've adjusted to the repetition and speed of that music that they move on to trance, which is perceived as more obnoxious and harder to appreciate.
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Oct-04-2009 18:09
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RebeL9
The Digital Blonde addict

Registered: Nov 2001
Location: Gothenburg, Sweden
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| quote: | Originally posted by Domesticated
Over the past 18 months or so I have interviewed quite a few trance personalities and a smattering of people from other scenes, and what always strikes me about the club trance producers is how fucking clueless they are about electronic music as a whole.
Usually they drop the name of a producer they see as credible, such as Jean-Michel Jarre, and then claim that this person influenced them. After that, they proceed to show their ignorance of the history and contemporary state of electronic music by saying that their tracks have a big techno or house influence or some other complete garbage. When I make this statement I'm thinking mainly of Dutch trance DJs under the age of 30. In contrast, the psy-trance, techno and house producers seem to be quite aware of where electronic music has come from and what the scenes they are not part of are like. A lot of the time, these more knowledgeable people used to produce trance themselves.
It seems to me that for a lot of people, trance is an introduction to electronic music and a fairly infantile one at that. All the serious people seem to move on to more creative and diverse genres, while the clueless idiots who should have stuck with pop/rock continue listening to trance. Again I'm talking about that Dutch under-30 bracket. This is funny because here in Melbourne, it's the complete opposite. Most people seem to cut their teeth on commercial house, and it's only when they've adjusted to the repetition and speed of that music that they move on to trance, which is perceived as more obnoxious and harder to appreciate. |
I also get that impression of young dutch djs. Often very clueless.
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Oct-04-2009 18:52
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SYSTEM-J
IDKFA.

Registered: Sep 2003
Location: Manchester
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Oct-04-2009 20:18
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Dj Minaya
Want some hummus?
Registered: Sep 2004
Location: Tustin, Ca
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| quote: | Originally posted by Trance-MB
Never knew there were that many young Dutch Trance DJ's.
How many DJ's did you interview?
And were these non-trance DJ's also under 30 (and Dutch)?
Also I don't get why you should have a lot of knowledge of the scenes where you are not part of. Maybe knowledge of the scene were you are part of even isn't necessary. DJ's need to enjoy crowds, not much more IMO.
Sorry, but IMO you're really talking bullshit here. Ever heard of taste or enjoying dancing?
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Having knowledge of where the music you play stems from is very important if you want to progress your sound into something more unique. Knowledge is a good thing. You can never have enough of it especially if as an artist you want to expand your sound to do something that hasn't been done before or blend styles that had yet to be blended.
No ones saying know everything about every genre, just be aware of them.
Just my opinion.
The comment about dutch trance DJ's has truth to it and it stems from incidents where Tiesto or Armin begin to call the tracks they produce or play "Minimal" or "Techno" where in most cases thats farthest from the truth.
No one said don't go out and have fun dancing either.
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