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Originally posted by tiesto14 maybe silly...but has to be played

but do you mean, that you want the US to use nukes in this war? That would be stupiest idea I have ever heard in this war against terror. Bin Laden, Al Qaida and Saddam Hussein have bio-wapons and probably nuclear wapons too, do you want them to use it too??

insane dude

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Last edited by Eugene on Jul-01-2002 at 23:18

First of all as an American I obviously Condem The attacks of sept. 11 as do just about everyone else.

However I also condem the way the U.S is carying out this "War". First of all its not technically a war as it wasnt declared one by congress(so half of the shit we did we shouldnt have been allowed to, but thats not the point right now). @Taliban - the taliban was a very oppresive goverment, but a good portion who supported Al quada/bin laden were not directly involved, they are getting a wore rap than they should. The support of qada was based on the actions of few not many.

Shortly after the attacks our goverment declared "a war against terror" which is very good. In theory. However we are not fighting terror we are fighting the afgans. The quada network itself has bases/camps in many other countrys. And quada isnt/wasnt the biggest terrorist group in the world.

Someone said something like its just a retaliation to a retaliation. This is were the problem really lies as long as there are people who oppose each other in this case terrorist vs u.s/israel/england/every other country targeted by terror this will continue. For every action there is a reaction. We bomb them and they get more angry. To be truly succesful we (all the countrys affected by terror) need to think for the future not the present. Otherwise this shit wont end.

i heard afghans smell

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Originally posted by tiesto14 OK...Americans woke up 1 day and where attacked...right?./..ok we where NOT in war times and we did not know of any attacks that could happen...we did not have ANY warning that this was going to happen...well maybe the government did but we as American civilians did not have a glimpse of a warning...

OMG! you're joking right? you can't possibly be that self-centered. Take a look around man!

Are you saying you were totally unaware of what's going OUTside America until 11th of september?

I was going to argue that (without making generalisations like yours...) American foreign policy and the majority of it's people are too arrogant and self-centered, but I'm not going to.... Because you just made my point.

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Originally posted by lMIlk i heard afghans smell

Ya I saw the same story on CNN!!

It said not only do they smell bad but they don't watch mtv!!!

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Originally posted by Time2Burn Ya I saw the same story on CNN!! It said not only do they smell bad but they don't watch mtv!!! MADNESS

LOL.

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earlier this morning i was talking to TTA , and i was telling him this :
"if i was brave enough , i swear to God i'd go and kill that asshole of Bush , even if i have to get the death sentence or spend the rest of my life in jail , the whole world is gonna be thankful to me , even the europeans and all the third world countries will try to reduce my sentence".

and i'm damn serious , too bad i don't have the guts to do it i hope someone else will do that for all of us

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Originally posted by tiesto14 i am confused with so many people here.....do you honestly beleive that in war there are no civilian casualties?....be real.....its war PEOPLE DIE....unfortuantley sometimes its civilians... and JohnSmith before u come in here attacking Americans why dont u also attack Palistineans for their suicide bombings which INTENTIANLEY kill civilians....I dont here you saying shit about that...how come?

im palastinian but i live in egypt, and you wanna know why the bomb themselves look at those pics.

Were these babies endangering the Zionist Soldiers lives and deserve this!!!??


or was this boy a threat!!




now see the this pictures and tell me what you really think



tell you something open this link youll see
http://www.sabiroon.org/index.phtml...=1&End=10&BR=BR

and there are alot more, tell me if you want more.


and please stop watching cnn and those kinda news channel they change everything to make isrealis the innocent people and palastinians the bad guys. isrealis started it they attacked palastine and said this is our land, who do you think is wrong now. would you like someone to come to your house and attack you and take it from you then say its my house. isrealians killed small kids some are still 7 or 6 years old. they even killed a 10 year old kid and his father, and they were only going to the supermarket, and when the father told them to stop they didnt till they killed them. lucky enough some guy caught it on video tape.

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Originally posted by Izzy the majority of 3rd world or developing contries in this world are under non representitive governments. is it so suprising that the majority of countries that hate america are run by dictators who incite hate of the USA in to their society, easy to do when one runs the media and education system. litterly the populace is being brainwashed into hate. i will give you some examples i used in another thread a while back: the official textbooks for Palestinian school children (published by the Palestinian Ministry of Education). quote: "Islam has forbidden flight from the battle and regards this as a grave sin. (Islamic Education for Eighth Grade #576 p. 176) Eighth graders are told that peace is morally wrong. quote: "Determine what is the subject, and what is the predicate, in the following sentences: -The Jihad is a religious duty of every Muslim man and woman." (Our Arabic Language for Fifth Grade #542, p. 167) Fifth graders are taught that they have a duty to fight religious wars in their grammar lessons. quote: "...Martyred Jihad fighters are the most honored people, after the Prophets..." (Reader And Literary Texts for Tenth Grade #607, p. 103) Tenth graders are assured blessing and honor as martyrs.

i think you got it wrong and the text is not complete. islam is a very peaceful religion, but if they got attacked they have to attack back and what you wrote up there says it. musilms only attack if they got attacked, forget about those fuckin terrorists and al quaeda, they are all killing and covering their killings with islam and they are wrong. islam is not about killing its a very peaceful religion. terrorists made islam look bad, they are wrong, completley wrong. i hope you get it.