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Originally posted by SDM Also of course u need to have some fucking experience in a club before making a bomb track! Not that many have that before the age of 20. And this is probably the catalyst of your desire to produce for many. The first experience at a 8000 people crowd going mental to the beat.

or an internet connection and some speakers.

And when went to raves, i'm pretty sure there were 16 year olds there.
You are making the argument that life experience facilitates art and I agree but in logical terms, denying the antecedent ( saying that not having experience will make you not able) is an invalid argument.

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Originally posted by RichieV kids these know how to hack into the pentagon. i'm pretty sure for alot of young teens, using a DAW isn't that hard. And you confuse child prodigies with the thousand others that just start music young. Prodigies are the ones that tend to burn out, not people that start young.

Hackers have some sort of goal that makes them learn fast. Also hacking isnt really that complicated and you can almost find anything on the web on how to. A Daw is like yeah they might learn how it works, but for what? They dont have the abstract way of thinking, the vision that is needed to make a good track. Oh i dont know but artistic creative work is something special that very few young people can do good. Its not just music, its everything. Kids are just too fucking dumb lol. They arent self-aware and especialy todays kids have no consentration haha. I must sound really old lol.

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Originally posted by SDM Hackers have some sort of goal that makes them learn fast. Also hacking isnt really that complicated and you can almost find anything on the web on how to. .

ditto for music.
Just stop.

It seem like you are justifying your own progress vis a vis your age.

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Originally posted by SDM Also of course u need to have some fucking experience in a club before making a bomb track! Not that many have that before the age of 20. And this is probably the catalyst of your desire to produce for many. The first experience at a 8000 people crowd going mental to the beat.

I know some of the massive events around here do cater to "all responsible ages," but they still have alcohol.

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Originally posted by dj_alfi change your avatar for fucks sake.

Probably...

I think we need examples, as Im terrible at getting my arguments understood lol.

I dont know anyone who made good EDM at a young age and still does.
On the other hand I really dont know the age of most of my favorite producers.

Some of my favorits like Underworld, Prodigy, Moby, Daft Punk, where all pretty old when successing. Marco V was pretty old when getting world-wide popular. SVD was pretty young and he lastet 1,5 years.

Other examples?

yo yo ma

and all those artists you named had to have money for equipment or studio time. There are no longer any financial gate keepers to make music anymore. And i'm pretty sure only the prodigy out of that last are still active. Maybe people just get bored ?

Again just because you find examples of your side doesn't mean it can't happen the other way.

Jonas Brothers
Beyonce
MIchael Jackson

Last edited by RichieV on Oct-15-2009 at 22:09

ofcourse there are alot of exceptions, but i lost my statement somewhere here haha. im only saying that i think that at the younger age you succeed the shorter youll last, like normaly atleast. forget all the other bable i said haha.

btw i wasnt really talking about performers in pop which beyoncey etc is. i was talking about writing good music, mostly edm.

ah man forget it all, ull never understand what im trying to say anyway, as im so bad at explaining myself.

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Originally posted by SDM this isnt just music though. Girls that where pretty on kid-school mostly suck now, and the geeky skinny nerds are suddenly good looking and will probably last alot longer too. Everyone I know that where good in fotbal when they where small sucks now while others that u thought where wimps suddenly make it. The ones that struggled most in classes suddenly have good jobs and shit. And then u have the ones that never change.

I think you just notice the ones who change more than the ones who stay the same. Yeah I know people who used to be fatties and got in shape or athletic and got fat, but for the most part people stick with the habits they had in their adolescence IMO.

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Originally posted by SDM the younger age you succeed the shorter youll last,

maybe it was the person who succeeded that decided not to pursue it ?
I just don't understand your frame of thinking. Maybe they move on to other styles of music. How is that a bad thing ? I did dance for 3 years and then studied classical composition. Maybe people learn as much as they want to learn and move on to things that excite them. How is this good or bad or any of your concern ?

and again , the young succeeding is not the same as learning young. It is logical that someone who cannot grasp success in a mature manner will most likely start snorting cocaine and take a little life detour.

The more experience you have in anything, the more advantages you will have. This applies to everything including music. The sooner you clock in the hours, the sooner you will be at a professional level. As far as what you do with that success, well that is up to the individual. I personally would take my chances with the cash money hoes.

Last edited by RichieV on Oct-15-2009 at 22:20

coke would explain my statement (or postulate really). maybe im just think that everyones loosers. u sucked me dry on this one, now i dont mean anything anymore, the little opinion i had is gonne, thank you.

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Originally posted by SDM coke would explain my statement (or postulate really). maybe im just think that everyones loosers.

you should get help with your addiction.