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Existo22
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quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
...it does feel like a collection of tracks glued together rather than a unified set.


Cd 1 is a perfect example of a set where the whole becomes greater than the sum of its parts To say that it is ''just a collection of tracks'' patched together hot mix style would be grossly inaccurate. Don't even go there. By no stress of the english language could this masterpiece ever be called "songy".

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...You've also got quite a few poppy vocals and accessible, almost New Age melodies. I can imagine my mother enjoying it.


Oh stop it already! Music is just enjoyment. It isn't something to use to feel better and superior to the others. It isn't something to play and feel smart about how you get this super awesome underground music that is meant for a chosen few. Can't you see the rotten mess this mentality got us in lately? There is a reason why its sold out completely not to be found anywhere new. And that is double disc or Us edition. The reason is because it is good. Really really fucking good. And ''new age'' is not exactly top 40 material but hey you are the music critic I shouldn't be telling you this.

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CD 1 will always do it for me, I never really got into the 2nd disc although I can certainly see how it was more influential in a sense of where their sound was going at the time.

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SYSTEM-J
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quote:
Originally posted by Existo22
Cd 1 is a perfect example of a set where the whole becomes greater than the sum of its parts To say that it is ''just a collection of tracks'' patched together hot mix style would be grossly inaccurate. Don't even go there. By no stress of the english language could this masterpiece ever be called "songy".


Perhaps if you haven't heard the second disc, or don't know the tracks they used. S&D were already doing smoother, more seamless mixing on vinyl by 1996 than all the fancy, Protools edits-and-effects of the first disc. The tracks are clearly delineated from each other, and I'm actually surprised they didn't mix more inventively. They practically let some tracks play out before mixing them.

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Oh stop it already! Music is just enjoyment. It isn't something to use to feel better and superior to the others. It isn't something to play and feel smart about how you get this super awesome underground music that is meant for a chosen few.


I'm disputing the notion that the first disc is "deeper" and the second disc is just good-time party music. You had no fucking problem with the thing being discussed in this way when Sljiva did it, because he praised the disc you love so much. But when I do it, suddenly you take ideological exception? Come off it. Your biases are obvious.

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There is a reason why its sold out completely not to be found anywhere new. And that is double disc or Us edition. The reason is because it is good. Really really fucking good.


It's not to be found new because it's out of print. I could easily argue that if it was so good, it would still be in print today. There are thousands of shitty records out of print, and it doesn't make them any good.

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And ''new age'' is not exactly top 40 material but hey you are the music critic I shouldn't be telling you this.


I presume you haven't looked at Enya's record sales recently. I could go down to the local supermarket and find a shelf of New Age compilations. My mother has a few herself.

Contrary to your fanboy-ish protestations, I'm not really knocking CD 1. I think it's a very good CD, incredibly eclectic with lots of great tracks and still very original. I'm disputing this notion that because the second CD is four-on-the-floor dance music it is somehow shallower, less worthwhile or less important.


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Perhaps if you haven't heard the second disc, or don't know the tracks they used. S&D were already doing smoother, more seamless mixing on vinyl by 1996 than all the fancy, Protools edits-and-effects of the first disc. The tracks are clearly delineated from each other, and I'm actually surprised they didn't mix more inventively.


More inventinly? They got two different versions of a track fading from one to the other. They got 3 tracks playing at the same time at part? Have you even heard the disk? It doesn't look like we are talking about the same disc.


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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J I'm disputing the notion that the first disc is "deeper" and the second disc is just good-time party music.



Never said that but remember you are the one who brought the second disc into the conversation, unfortunately, most like due to clearance issues the second disc was never realeased in my country! I will try to find it and give it a listen
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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J It's not to be found new because it's out of print. I could easily argue that if it was so good, it would still be in print today.


Stop! Just stop!


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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J .

Contrary to your fanboy-ish protestations, I'm not really knocking CD 1.


Yes you were...

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J I think it's a very good CD, incredibly eclectic with lots of great tracks and still very original.


Now you are starting to make some sense.
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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J I'm disputing this notion that because the second CD is four-on-the-floor dance music it is somehow shallower, less worthwhile or less important.


Well I didn't get a chance to hear the second disk. It is probably really good too. As far as comparing the two It doesn't really matter. Northern exposure is a masterpiece.

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Good god is this person for real?

Out of curiosity, what do you believe is the best of the NE albums?


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Out of curiosity, what do you believe is the best of the NE albums?


Get a taste of this.



http://www.amazon.com/Northern-Expo...d/dp/B000003SFN

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I wasn't talking to you. It's obvious what your choice is. Moron.


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Actually, it does get better than that.

DJ Tiësto - In Search of Sunrise 1 & 2

Probably thee CD's of any trance compilation.

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I wasn't talking to you. It's obvious what your choice is. Moron.

Beware, he might put you on ignore.


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Beware, he might put you on ignore.

You already met that horrible fate, correct?

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Beware, he might put you on ignore.


Oh, God! The horror!


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