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Originally posted by Aesthetic Yeah it's really sad that they should want to fulfil their purpose as a living organism on the planet rather than fucking around on a computer all day making music. lol.

Production and reproduction are not mutually exclusive, and I never said they were. ;-)

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Originally posted by RoBDaWG I have a few ideas... And this mostly applies to the US because well, that's where I live For the most part, people who are into EDM, are really into it. I'd say a large majority of people that listen to EDM listen to it almost exclusively and are very into it. They/We go out and find styles we like, radio shows, podcasts, etc that fit our EDM taste and listen to it, because we're into it, a lot, it's our hobby. Some people play baseball, we EDM. Girls I seem to find, aren't into shit. Nothing. Most girls I know have no hobbies, no passions, perhaps a career-oriented life goal but other than that I can't think of a single girl that I know that has something she's into on the side. They're days revolve around looking pretty and going out on the weekend, where ever other people say the cool place to go is. Girls tend to be more followers than leaders. People who listen to run-of-the-mill whatever is on the radio have litte preference. They like stuff that is familiar to them. Most girls, stemming from lacking a hobby, listen to whatever is on the radio or in mainstream media whether they actually like the music or not, they know it, it's familiar. And when they listen to music, it's just on, in the background, they talk over it, and it's insignificant. I'll tell ya when I'm in the car with a girl/date, I tend NOT to put on EDM because I end up not listening to her because I get so focused on the music lol. And on that note... I need to go join beamrider in Argentina hahha.

In fairness you do live in Jersey so no wonder

I have to agree about the sheer ridiculousness of the generalizations in this thread - and I think the main point is that it varies from country to country and in a lot of cases city to city.

For instance, in London back in the 90's, it was easily a 50/50 split and sometimes the men were seriously outnumbered in a lot of clubs especially the more dressy ones. The more druggy and more ghetto the more men there were but still a large contingent woman at nearly any given club.

Here in LA, I find a decent mix of male female in most clubs apart from it seems with the less mainstream DJ names (more underground) at the large venues in which case they turn in to a complete sausage fest every time.

With the very big names it seems more ladies come out to party - DJ like sander K, Carl Cox, Sanchez etc.

But, there's also another major factor - the music itself.

If you go to a good house or deep house night, like DEEP at vanguard, you easily get a 50/50 split and the crowd is also a bit older and more discerning, but if you go to Avalon when a big trance DJ is playing it's more often that not a toatl cockfest.

John Fleming said something quite interesting a few years ago - "women like it (the music) more funky and have something for the to hold on to and interect with such as a vocal where as the average bloke will like sightly deeper tracks."

And that's coming from a trance DJ. I think women also like to see more of a performance from a DJ where as men go to hear tracks slightly more.

I'm lucky, my GF is in to EDM as was before I met met but then again she's European and I think the same can be said of most European countries, that girls are in to EDM. Places like Holland, Switzerland, Sweden, Denmark etc, have huge female EDM fanbases.

Haha i see what you did there. But i'd rather a woman who has more nurturing qualities and helps make it a happy home for me, than to be sleeping with the female version of da vinci

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles Production and reproduction are not mutually exclusive, and I never said they were. ;-)

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Originally posted by DjStephenWiley Watcha got. I rememeber reading one time that men heavily preferred "instrumental" music in a study versus vocal music. I believe another factor is if you're into EDM djing/producing/business (which is about 99% of EDM listeners now) you are without a doubt a confident person. I hate to generalize but women seem so insecure. Maybe that's another reason? Regardless of it all, we need more hot b!tches listening to our music. We've got way too many chiefs and not enough female indians. What do you guys think the problem is?

Change the game man its all in the promotion. How do people expect women to like the music when the industry is built on promoting it to the dj's (aka men).

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Originally posted by mfitterer1 Change the game man its all in the promotion. How do people expect women to like the music when the industry is built on promoting it to the dj's (aka men).

Yup! Very true.

BTW, my girl is into EDM too. She just likes the Latin Indie EDM stuff & some cheese.

She's gone to Avalon, Circus & Vanguard with me. But everytime I take her to a very hardcore gig like Digweed or Sasha, she freaks out and says everyone looks like zombies! lol I think James Holden was a bit too dark for her too. lol But I did see a lot more girls there that night.

I see lots of ladies loving dance music, but not DJing or producing. Well here's my theories from a United Statesian point of view:

-DJ/Producing involves gadgetry. Supposedly, ladies hate gadgets, and anything mechanical or whatever.

-It's an introverted hobby, and it's socially acceptable for men to be introverted, but I don't think this is how it is for the ladies. Many times you'll be producing alone, as opposed to a band where you'll have to

-It's considered wierd/nerdy--wierd and nerdy is a field dominated by men. Dance music gets a lot of hate here in the USA. People will look at you like you're a serial killer if you admit you like dance music. I guarantee you that to the ladies, they'd see that a guy with a guitar is cooler than a guy with a laptop.

Yes, these are all generalizations. I expect to be called sexist at any moment now, but I suggest you go to a sociology proffessor, and he or she might agree with me on these generalizations on women, and I guarantee you that despite the freedoms you are given, 90% of people will conform to gender norms.

If you are clueless or dont get out much, you believe women dont follow EDM. Which is a shame if you run a label. I'd say get out more and get clued in, will do wonders if you want to do something through EDM.

With that said, there is room for growth, the possibility that not enough women are into EDM simply means EDM has enormous room for growth.

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commercial and underground electronic music (house/techno/trance/other) will surpass today's hip hop/pop/rock/country in worldwide interest...if it has'nt already.

To add to that, women are some of the most hardcore EDM fans you will find. I know women who go to their favorite DJs shows religously, they are actually the most loyal fans. They seem to build an attachment, the DJ mesmerizes them at a show and they're hooked. And the OP is ignorant as usual, he thinks all EDM music is instrumental, therefore women dont like it...when the genre he is into is full of vocal tracks

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commercial and underground electronic music (house/techno/trance/other) will surpass today's hip hop/pop/rock/country in worldwide interest...if it has'nt already.

I don't know the scene very well, but there seems to be a lot of women in techno. a lot of the big names in techno are women for example: ellen allien, magda just to name a few.

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Originally posted by Stylz Women are more concearned with fitting in and being part of the group

+1

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