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Originally posted by DEAD_MOOSE im happy with my old pc,and a legit copy of logic in terms of editing, arranging, recording and sequencing.

How do you run logic on a pc? That doesn't make any sense & is impossible unless you have an old version of "emagic logic'.

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Originally posted by SGL How do you run logic on a pc? That doesn't make any sense & is impossible unless you have an old version of "emagic logic'.

He did say old PC didn't he?

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Originally posted by Zild He did say old PC didn't he?

Ya, but he never said which version of Logic he has. I doubt he's still using 'Emagic Logic'. That thing is ancient.

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Originally posted by SGL Ya, but he never said which version of Logic he has. I doubt he's still using 'Emagic Logic'. That thing is ancient.

Many people do.

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Originally posted by Zild Many people do.

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Originally posted by SGL Ya, but he never said which version of Logic he has. I doubt he's still using 'Emagic Logic'. That thing is ancient.

yikes. another great example of someone with the belief they need the most up to date equipment/software to be able to perform. just like the idiots who go straight to a apple laptop because "you need one to be a pro". we all see them. the important looking idiots who get their macbooks out on the train or tube and the moment you think they are gonna open up a copy of final cut to work on a bit of editing, they do one better and pop on a sitcom dvd and make sure everyone on the train can see they are watching it on the newest, flashest widescreen macbook you can get.

it makes me laugh the way so many of you are trying to pick holes in my music examples i gave. isnt it obvious i was listing dance tracks specifically because they apply best to the current discussion? i listed a handful of very popular dance records where a bit of thought and originality has gone into how they sound. im very aware the arrangement is strict when it comes to dance music and that you are pretty limited in terms of what you can do without moving away from what dj's/clubbers expect in a track. my point is that in these tracks they have been able to come up with something that fits within a genre but also stands out amongst so many music by numbers tracks.

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I used to make traditional poppy stuff and found it way easier. Classical music allows you more freedom and less constraint and IS easier. A classical piece can wander and meander - no big deal, less discipline.

With EDM it's a real artisans craft to get repetition sounding sweet and I'd say very few get it right.

Lot of people that have'nt delivered a decent track, yet seem qualified to make pronouncements that EDM is'nt musically complex.
If it ain't so hard - post up your best track here and we'll see eh

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Originally posted by DEAD_MOOSE yikes. another great example of someone with the belief they need the most up to date equipment/software to be able to perform. .

I watch all those interviews that come with future music, and a lot of pros do not have this obsession with gear aquisition.

It tickles me when people have to constanly clutter thier computer with yet another bank of shite to add to the 1 million smaples thay already have to trawl.

I used to have a load a hardware, but I dont miss it.

One of the biggest dance tracks 'music sounds better with you' was controlled from some old ensonique workstation! No computer, no DAW, virtually no sample library and little equipment.

Claude Von stroke the master of minimal stuff onj a video I have here saying he had to send a track to his mate who knew how to set up a side chain as vonstroke didnt have a clue 'bout that sort of thing'.

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Originally posted by DEAD_MOOSE Id say though that your myspace page pretty much sums up what i mean in terms of musical output. sure, the style is fluffy, happy, bouncy etc. sounds clear and well produced yes, but from reading your kit list i see an access virus, nord lead, etc, but from listening to the tracks on your player i dont hear any real milking of your equipment, or very much creativity. i just hear sounds that sound like the virus/nord presets that the bundled fl synths try to replicate. surely someone else must see and hear what im talking about?

stop being such a baby..."I'm too artistic (IE lazy) to work to afford real gear so Im going to rip on people who can actually hold down a job and don't run from responsibility"

Are far as cryo goes...his tracks are musically far more creative than 99.999% of the edm that comes out today. all you have to do is listen but maybe your too lazy to do that too.

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Originally posted by justjabbin "I'm too artistic (IE lazy) to work to afford real gear so Im going to rip on people who can actually hold down a job and don't run from responsibility"

Cool. this sentence is just great. its like the type of thing you hear from someone who doesnt understand a mental illness but stands up and says the sufferer should "pull themselves together". you dont understand artistic minds, and i dont blame you for it.
im guessing you are one of these pen pusher types who desperately tries to be a deep thinker and a musician. problems is, you will never be one and you know it. this must be why my topic offends you so much. your avatar makes you look like a pro(with the textbook haircut to match the pro headphones), and your regular up to date purchasing of the beatport top ten would suggest to an unwitting club goer that you are a big shot, but really the main reason you do it is to try and make yourself look more attractive to the opposite sex. and when people like me are still working as an artist and musician in 20 yrs, people like you will look back and think "what did i see in it all?.. well at least i can appear like i did cool stuff to my kids"

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I wonder what all these silly people, who buy Ferraris, Mclaren F1s, Koenigseggs etc, are thinking..
Unless they can drive like Schumacher, what´s the point?
Music for me is a hobby, and I´ve spend over 10 000$ through the years on stuff. It´s alot of cash,
and my tracks are amateurish at best. So there.

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Originally posted by Richard Butler I used to make traditional poppy stuff and found it way easier. Classical music allows you more freedom and less constraint and IS easier. A classical piece can wander and meander - no big deal, less discipline. With EDM it's a real artisans craft to get repetition sounding sweet and I'd say very few get it right. Lot of people that have'nt delivered a decent track, yet seem qualified to make pronouncements that EDM is'nt musically complex. If it ain't so hard - post up your best track here and we'll see eh

i think it is sort of immature to think of music in terms of what is "easier"

you are also wrong regarding classical music having a lack of form.
Classical music is stricter with form than EDM.

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