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Eric J
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quote:
Originally posted by RichieV
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a few sample librairies have a work around including Logics own Esx24 so that 64 bit addressing is available ( It isn't true 64 bit but it can load the same amount of ram)


Precisely. Its similar to the AWE extensions on Windows that allow SQL Server and Analysis Services to address 64 bit. Same concept.

Anyway, even when a version of Logic is released that is true 64 bit, then we have to wait for 64 bit Core Audio drivers from OEMs. In addition, every one of your plugins will need to be made 64 bit.

Some OEMs and software companies are starting on that work now, but if you have the amount of software instruments and effects that I have, you know its going to take quite some time, and some may never be rewritten to support 64 bit.

Its a fairly difficult process, and in some cases, software would need to be completely rewritten again from the ground up, so it may not be worth it for a software company to devote all that time and money to 64 bit until it has greater market penetration.

I wouldn't be surprised to see 128-bit capable processors widely available before 64 bit reaches the market penetration that 32 bit enjoys today.

The good news is that the audio emulation software market will get a huge benefit from 64 bit when it does hit. This will mean higher quality emulations of real world circuits (read: analog) and the ability for computers to process more data at a faster rate, which means you can use higher quality plugins without bringing your system to it's knees.

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Omega_Blue
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guys, guys. windows 7 is fantastic- i noticed a healthy amount of ram free'd and a bit better loading times/speed improvements for programs (including and especially DAWs)

you don't have to wipe clean and reinstall everything to install windows 7. just upgrade your previous OS and it'll keep all of your settings, bookmarks, programs, everything. i upgraded from vista 32 pro to 7 32 ultimate and didn't have to reinstall anything. or re-enter any old account passwords.. nothing. all of my DAWs worked fine, and all of my VSTs work just as well as before.

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you don't have to wipe clean and reinstall everything to install windows 7. just upgrade your previous OS and it'll keep all of your settings, bookmarks, programs, everything.


True, but that wasn't an option for me because I wanted a dual-boot setup that kept my Vista installation in place until I'm sure that everything will work on W7. Besides, even MS recommends to format your HD and do a clean install, rather than upgrading over your old OS.


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DjStephenWiley
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where did you guys get your W7 copies? I can't imagine it's cheap?

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where did you guys get your W7 copies? I can't imagine it's cheap?


I pre-ordered mine from MS back in July - got Home Premium for $49 and Professional for $99.


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Eric J
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where did you guys get your W7 copies? I can't imagine it's cheap?


I'm MCP, so I get copies from MSDN. Running Windows 7 Enterprise on a couple of virtual machines and a secondary PC at work. As a side note, Windows 7 Enterprise comes with Hyper-V support for those with the hardware to support it. Very cool!

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Specimen303
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there might be alot of updates since your clean install you know. that solution sucks unless u make a new image every month. and then the point is gonne because ull take image of all the crap too. even in osx u better reinstall everything sometimes, eventhough timemachine is awesome i would rather install everything from bottom. i only use timemachine for a panikbackup really (if all else fail). thank gods its so easy on a mac.


That's why there are those service packs. They hold all the earlier hotfixes to the point that specific sp was introduced. So let's say you made backup of your windows vista when it didn't have any service packs. And at the time you need re-install everything there's sp 2. Don't wait and let the windows update install everything, because it starts from the scratch and will take hours/days. Just download the latest service pack and after installing that let it install couple of newer hotfixes. It isn't that hard.

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That's why there are those service packs. They hold all the earlier hotfixes to the point that specific sp was introduced. So let's say you made backup of your windows vista when it didn't have any service packs. And at the time you need re-install everything there's sp 2. Don't wait and let the windows update install everything, because it starts from the scratch and will take hours/days. Just download the latest service pack and after installing that let it install couple of newer hotfixes. It isn't that hard.

lol its crap, i know all about this, i work with it from time to time and get equaly frustrated each time. windows is so fucking crap. win7 was alot easier and faster to install though but im guessing the update thing is the same. updates shouldnt come oftener than 2 times a year imo so that u can actualy see whats updated and feel that it has a poiint at all.

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Storyteller
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No then every windows user would be the victim of abuse. Maybe Mac can pull that off but that's only because of their relatively small userbase which makes them way less interesting for any type of abuse.


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windows is so fucking crap.

You know what's "fucking crap?" The quality of your posts. Not only is this not the appropriate forum for the can of worms you keep trying to open, but you know absolutely nothing about the subject. Just put a sock in it.


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