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Kismet7
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Originally posted by Storyteller
I laughed. Kismet please stop. You didn't read properly (literally and context-wise) on page one and look where it got us.


With the countless reading comprenhension failures i've run into on this forum, that is rich coming from you. You probably dont even know how bus compression works either.
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Now obviously they are both compressed when you send the signals to the master, but what does that compression look like?

Since you guys are well below average reading comprehension, let me help, when he says "send to master bus", that means he is sending it, he didnt say he summed or made one track out of two sounds, he is simply sending it. You dont have to sum anything up to send it to a compressor/limiter for processing.


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Nightshift
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Kismet fails...once again.


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Zak McKracken
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Originally posted by Kismet7
bus compression

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Kismet7
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Do you have anything else to do but troll discussions and add nothing? Lame


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Storyteller
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With the countless reading comprenhension failures i've run into on this forum, that is rich coming from you.

It is indeed. Especially considering you're the native speaker and you're doing it wrong . I'm just saying if you read better it could have saved us from a lot of rants.


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Kismet - JBJ is right, you are wrong
Is it so hard to hold your hands up and say that you made a mistake instead of trying to make out your still right??? Fucking hell man

And stop patronising people telling them to go and read up on whatever - no need for it, there are plenty of people on this board who have just as much production knowledge as you believe it or not


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Kismet7
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Neglecting transients, and saying as long as amplitudes are equal then the compression will affect the sounds equally is ridiculous and as wrong as it gets. The fact that people agree with the wrong answer here shows the integrity and knowledge of the troll committee here. Maybe because they are trolls first, producers last?


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Storyteller
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It only complicates the entire picture whilst the final result would be the following: Both sounds will be compressed identically because the compressor is triggered by the volume of both channels combined. /thread


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Kismet7
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Its amazing how little the TA troll comittee knows about Bus Compression. If 2 signals are hitting the same compressor, they are not impacting the compressor the same way at all, even if their amplitudes are the same in volume. One might be hitting it at its highest amplitude while the other might be coming off the end of its transient, so the two sounds likely see different amounts of compression at any given point. And then there is the sounds envelope, which affects the compression as well, which i'm the only one to address.

Stop misleading people with false info, when you dont know the first thing about compression. What are we at now, Troll Comittee failure #32 or #33? Go read up on compression and better yet go practice so you can stop sucking and misleading people who ask for help.

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Kismet7
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Amazing guide to compression

http://www.digitalprosound.com/2001...big_squeeze.htm


And then here is some Mix Bus Compression

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/may...compression.htm


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RichieV
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quote:
Originally posted by Kismet7
Its amazing how little the TA troll comittee knows about Bus Compression. If 2 signals are hitting the same compressor, they are not impacting the compressor the same way at all, even if their amplitudes are the same in volume. One might be hitting it at its highest amplitude while the other might be coming off the end of its transient, so the two sounds likely see different amounts of compression at any given point. And then there is the sounds envelope, which affects the compression as well, which i'm the only one to address.


/thread

you aren't taking into account how actual software compressors work and the math behind it. You don't understand the programming behind compressors which hinders you from understanding the big picture. You've basically posted compression 101 for idiots. If you find this informative, you are a noob.

And this is from a purely theoretical standpoint. From a practical setting, your lack of knowledge of the human ear and general mixing tendencies makes what you say sound that much sillier.

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Kismet7
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quote:
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you aren't taking into account how actual software compressors work and the math behind it. You don't understand the programming behind compressors which hinders you from understanding the big picture. You've basically posted compression 101 for idiots. If you find this informative, you are a noob.

And this is from a purely theoretical standpoint. From a practical setting, your lack of knowledge of the human ear and general mixing tendencies makes what you say sound that much sillier.




I've been explaining what practically happens during a 2 signal bus compression, you've been off point throughout, and saying "yah as long as amplitudes are equal they are affecting the compressor and vice versa equally at all times, when thats only a piece of the puzzle in which each sounds dynamics would cause the compressor act different when two or more sounds are being bus compressed. Its sad that you went to school for this, but someone who is self taught is giving you a ride on the yellow school bus. Maybe you should have been paying attention in class.

And actually those guides, especially the one on compression is rather comprehensive. Start there.


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