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Originally posted by R!CH if you want to look at it in sociological terms, having more than 2 kids per family is a selfish act. the planet is overpopulated, there aren't enough resources for every family that wants 3+ kids to just have them. part of the reason why there's starving kids in africa is because the average woman there has 8 of them and no means to feed any of them.

Someone please send the above memo to the Africans and Muslims. Africa has 42 of the top 52 spots in fertility rate, between 5.5 and 7.5 children born per woman. Gaza's current birth rate: 5.3 children per woman. Afghanistan: 6.53. Yemen: 6.32.

United States: 2.05. Canada: 1.58. Most of Europe about 1.5. By the time the Western world is overrun, I'll be dead... thank god.

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Originally posted by The17sss Someone please send the above memo to the Africans and Muslims. Africa has 42 of the top 52 spots in fertility rate, between 5.5 and 7.5 children born per woman. Gaza's current birth rate: 5.3 children per woman. Afghanistan: 6.53. Yemen: 6.32. United States: 2.05. Canada: 1.58. Most of Europe about 1.5. By the time the Western world is overrun, I'll be dead... thank god.

I'm not sure what else encompasses the "Western World", but they're not really under-represented, nor do I think they'll be a minority any time soon... Europe is insanely populous, even if the population is now decreasing. Besides, the Latin American population is also growing... even though we're just in the periphery of the so-called West.

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Originally posted by Lira I'm not sure what else encompasses the "Western World", but they're not really under-represented, nor do I think they'll be a minority any time soon... Europe is insanely populous, even if the population is now decreasing. Besides, the Latin American population is also growing... even though we're just in the periphery of the so-called West.

The extensive migration to europe from muslim nations, coupled with their rabbit-like breeding... thats how europe's population is increasing. Europe will be an ethnic and culture clash disaster of epic proportions in a generation.

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Originally posted by The17sss The extensive migration to europe from muslim nations, coupled with their rabbit-like breeding... thats how europe's population is increasing. Europe will be an ethnic and culture clash disaster of epic proportions in a generation.

Now, there's no annotation, but I'm pretty sure the graph literally in the post above yours calls bullshit on what you've just said.

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Originally posted by The17sss The extensive migration to europe from muslim nations, coupled with their rabbit-like breeding... thats how europe's population is increasing. Europe will be an ethnic and culture clash disaster of epic proportions in a generation.

You're such an idiot.

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Originally posted by Lews You're such an idiot.

i know. I'm so off base it's crazy. There are zero signs throughout France, the UK, and Denmark of any such growing tensions. And those CIA Factbook numbers I posted earlier are fake. Take your head out of the sand.

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Originally posted by The17sss i know. I'm so off base it's crazy. There are zero signs throughout France, the UK, and Denmark of any such growing tensions. And those CIA Factbook numbers I posted earlier are fake. Take your head out of the sand.

You're still an idiot.

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whatever dude

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Originally posted by The17sss i know. I'm so off base it's crazy. There are zero signs throughout France, the UK, and Denmark of any such growing tensions. And those CIA Factbook numbers I posted earlier are fake. Take your head out of the sand.

The17sss, roughly 10% of France is Muslim, and that's the country with the greatest Islamic presnce in Europe... that's hardly enough to take a whole country. Comparatively speaking, their chances were way higher back in the Middle Ages, before the Reconquista.

Not that there's a problem with what you're saying. Europeans spread all over the world in the past few centuries, it's about time Europe became a more diversified continent too!

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In the absence of objective measures of selfishness, immaturity, or pointlessness it seems to me that statement is a mere opinion. Accordingly, it is inappropriate to discuss it in terms of being true or false.

It might be amusing to examine the factual and logical errors apparent in the process by which the opinion had been reached in some particular case, but aside from that I'm not sure what there is to discuss on the matter...

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles I have seen people say this many times here and elsewhere, though maybe not so bluntly. Do you think it is true? Why?

For some, not wanting kids may be selfish (not wanting to give their own time and effort to support the life of another), and for others it's unselfish (not wanting to bring a life into an overpopulated/shitty/doomed world, wanting to adopt rather than have natural kids etc.). In either case, I don't think it's immature at all. If someone can recognize that they are too selfish to take care of another human being, that IMO is far more mature than most of the fools out there who procreate simply because they think that's what they are supposed to do.

As for life being pointless? I disagree. It isn't the mass wide accepted "point to life", but people without kids can enjoy very different lives of travel, learning, helping others etc. and I don't think that's pointless.

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Originally posted by The17sss The extensive migration to europe from muslim nations, coupled with their rabbit-like breeding... thats how europe's population is increasing. Europe will be an ethnic and culture clash disaster of epic proportions in a generation.

Wait, you mean there's no culture clash now? lol

I don't see how the clash could increase any more. The more the ethnic minorities already there integrate the less of a clash there will be regardless of numbers of people.

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Originally posted by ******** Seplling don't demonstrate intelligence and educatoin - knowing does.