They even use the VSTi in all their video demos. WTF. Why have the hardware at all? It's just a giant dongle. Their next step should be to just give up and release a PCI card... ridiculous...
Arp modulation is a very welcome addition - that will probably be my most-used feature. I still wish they'd give you the ability to copy/paste arp patterns.
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Jan-14-2010 16:12
cryophonik
Boom shanka
Registered: Jan 2008
Location: Elk Grove, CA USA
quote:
Originally posted by alanzo
Weird that they added the new filters to the frequency shifter section...
Actually that makes sense since shifting frequencies is essentially what a formant filter has to do to emulate vowels. Also, the beauty of using it as an insert effect is that it allows you to still use the 2 main filters to their full capacity. Big thumbs up!
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Jan-14-2010 16:30
G-Con
aka Greg Nicot
Registered: Jun 2006
Location: England
quote:
Originally posted by alanzo
They even use the VSTi in all their video demos. WTF. Why have the hardware at all? It's just a giant dongle. Their next step should be to just give up and release a PCI card... ridiculous...
Its much easier for demonstration purposes to show us the vsti so we can clearly see exactly what he's doing as he speaks. It would be difficult to see the LCD screen on the unit in the video so I dont see a problem with how they've done it.
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Jan-14-2010 16:38
cryophonik
Boom shanka
Registered: Jan 2008
Location: Elk Grove, CA USA
quote:
Originally posted by G-Con
Its much easier for demonstration purposes to show us the vsti so we can clearly see exactly what he's doing as he speaks. It would be difficult to see the LCD screen on the unit in the video so I dont see a problem with how they've done it.
Agreed. In the case of the arp, I typically work with that solely in VST mode - trying to edit it from the front panel is a PITA (as are most hardware arps/step sequencers).
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Jan-14-2010 16:40
alanzo
The Equalizer Womanizer
Registered: Sep 2003
Location: Boston, MA
quote:
Originally posted by cryophonik
Agreed. In the case of the arp, I typically work with that solely in VST mode - trying to edit it from the front panel is a PITA (as are most hardware arps/step sequencers).
You actually can't create custom ARP patterns without using the plugin. Or at least you couldn't last I checked a couple years ago. I just hate the idea of buying a big expensive hardware box to use a VSTi. It makes no sense!
I guess you can use the knobs for simple things like filterns and envelopes, but, still, it just bugs the crap out of me that they have completely forgotten the hardware and concentrate on the plugin so much. They didn't redesign the interface a single bit with the TI2.
Originally posted by alanzo
You actually can't create custom ARP patterns without using the plugin. Or at least you couldn't last I checked a couple years ago.
Now that you mention it, I think you're right. I tend to avoid programming sequences/arps on most hardware, including DSI, Nord, etc. if I have the option of using an editor.
Originally posted by tehlord
Why don't you just put arp patterns in the piano roll instead? Much more control that way.
I do that as well in many situations, but you obviously can't store that pattern with a patch. A lot of times, I will get a sound going that I like, then start going through some of the arp patterns looking for ideas. More often than not, I'll find something close to what I'm looking for in the arp patterns, but the VST doesn't display the pattern or allow you to copy it to the user slot for editing, so you have to figure it out manually.
It would be a nice time-saver if the VST would allow you to just copy the presets (and user) patterns, or at least display the pattern to make manually copying it to the user slot for a starting point that much quicker. It would just improve workflow and it's not a deal-breaker by any means, but I do use the Virus' arp a lot and would really like to see that implemented in a future OS.
