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Originally posted by msz man, i feel pretty uneasy dealing with labels, they can cheat you so easily. i would like to start my own label after about 10 releases, so i can manage this and safety it but, i still dont know not really looking into it for a bit.

exact the reason why i started my own label. this 20 pages contracts frighten the shit out of me. and i know for sure i wont earn any money anyway so why the hell give away my rights too? starting my own label was a good thing for my creativity and frustration of the labels around. its not much work either (as long as u stay away from beatort, that website is terrible for uploading new material). I started my own label after one lousy deal with armada, thats all i can take, and i still push them about getting my tracks rights back, closing the deal because they have fooled me out of money for "promotion costs". fuck i want those tracks back.

After reading some many posts on this thread , the idea that making music (espically in this field we are talking about) doesn't feed you stucked in my mind.

But hey , it does bring some extra cash I guess!

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should art really feed anyone? paintings for millions? its not work. defition of work is shit, and is what should make you rich. hard hating exhausting work.

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Originally posted by palm should art really feed anyone? paintings for millions? its not work. defition of work is shit, and is what should make you rich. hard hating exhausting work.

What?

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Originally posted by Acton What?

I think he's saying that since art isn't really work, you shouldn't make a lot of money on it and that you should only make money for doing hard work. That or something about eating art and then shitting on millions of people for money so that you can be rich. I'm really not sure.

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Originally posted by floyd741 I think he's saying that since art isn't really work, you shouldn't make a lot of money on it and that you should only make money for doing hard work.

I'm sure most producers work really hard on their productions, I know I do.


Well done on the translation, you succeeded, where I had failed.

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Originally posted by palm exact the reason why i started my own label. this 20 pages contracts frighten the shit out of me. and i know for sure i wont earn any money anyway so why the hell give away my rights too? starting my own label was a good thing for my creativity and frustration of the labels around. its not much work either (as long as u stay away from beatort, that website is terrible for uploading new material). I started my own label after one lousy deal with armada, thats all i can take, and i still push them about getting my tracks rights back, closing the deal because they have fooled me out of money for "promotion costs". fuck i want those tracks back.

i feel you, im just signing a few contracts now, if they go bad i wont sign anymore haha. only time will tell. good thing mine are not 20 pages @_@

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Originally posted by Zak McKracken should art really feed anyone? paintings for millions? its not work. defition of work is shit, and is what should make you rich. hard hating exhausting work.

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Originally posted by Acton What?

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Originally posted by floyd741 I think he's saying that since art isn't really work, you shouldn't make a lot of money on it and that you should only make money for doing hard work. That or something about eating art and then shitting on millions of people for money so that you can be rich. I'm really not sure.

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Originally posted by Acton I'm sure most producers work really hard on their productions, I know I do. Well done on the translation, you succeeded, where I had failed.

lol, ill refrase better next time (if i know what i talk about).

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Originally posted by palm should art really feed anyone? paintings for millions? its not work. defition of work is shit, and is what should make you rich. hard hating exhausting work.

I disagree. Hard work isn't limited to the physical - it can be creative or intellectual as well. A good artist has usually spends many years perfecting his/her art and often many months or years creating their masterpieces. The best get rewarded accordingly. Of course, often it's the cheesiest who get the biggest rewards when it comes to music, but that's a whole other discussion.

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ive heard on interviews before that most producers who are well off make there money of dj gigs???

ive heard about what armin and the big guns earn per hour at a set its SO much!!

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Originally posted by Sonic_c I made a track recently that went big

LMFAO.

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