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Orko
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quote:
Originally posted by VERTiG0
I don't think anybody even knew Haiti existed before that earthquake


Everybody knew it as "the poorest nation in the Western Hemisphere".

I think Haiti received more help because of a collective feeling of guilt. It is such a close neighbour, but most people over looked it when considering donations to a poor country (outside of disaster time). People always thought of Africa, South (East) Asia...etc, not Haiti. That's not to say that people didn't donate, obviously they did, but not to the same extent. Plus, how many 'help Haiti' commercials did you see before the earth quake?

Chile higher GDP (76st source) is a lot closer to ours than Haiti's. Hell some people in Canada don't make the same as people in Chile. Also, take into account population loss. Haiti lost ~3% of it's people, where as Chile will lose far fewer. So the battle for the surviving to deal with the dead is less exhaustive.

The news coverage has baffled me a bit. When Haiti was hit, CBC News was basically the all Haiti channel, you couldn't get coverage for anything else. But, for Chile, it is business as usual.

We must not forget our ties to Haiti. Our Governor General is from there. Plus, the US has a large Haitian population, which helped spur media focus, here and south of us. I think this played a huge part.

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you're insulting our intelligence with your posts, Jayx.


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quote:
Originally posted by Orko
Everybody knew it as "the poorest nation in the Western Hemisphere".

I think Haiti received more help because of a collective feeling of guilt. It is such a close neighbour, but most people over looked it when considering donations to a poor country (outside of disaster time). People always thought of Africa, South (East) Asia...etc, not Haiti. That's not to say that people didn't donate, obviously they did, but not to the same extent. Plus, how many 'help Haiti' commercials did you see before the earth quake?

Argintina's higher GDP (81st source) is a lot closer to ours than Haiti's. Hell some people in Canada don't make the same as people in Argentina. Also, take into account population loss. Haiti lost ~3% of it's people, where as Argentina will lose far fewer. So the battle for the surviving to deal with the dead is less exhaustive.

The news coverage has baffled me a bit. When Haiti was hit, CBC News was basically the all Haiti channel, you couldn't get coverage for anything else. But, for Argentina, it is business as usual.

We must not forget our ties to Haiti. Our Governor General is from there. Plus, the US has a large Haitian population, which helped spur media focus, here and south of us. I think this played a huge part.


and the numbers. It's a combination of factors, the sheer numbers, the helplessness and existing poverty you've mentioned in your post, the timing (which is unfortunate for Chile), etc.

To use an act of terrorism as a comparison to Chile is however.


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quote:
Originally posted by Orko
Everybody knew it as "the poorest nation in the Western Hemisphere".

I think Haiti received more help because of a collective feeling of guilt. It is such a close neighbour, but most people over looked it when considering donations to a poor country (outside of disaster time). People always thought of Africa, South (East) Asia...etc, not Haiti. That's not to say that people didn't donate, obviously they did, but not to the same extent. Plus, how many 'help Haiti' commercials did you see before the earth quake?

Argintina's higher GDP (81st source) is a lot closer to ours than Haiti's. Hell some people in Canada don't make the same as people in Argentina. Also, take into account population loss. Haiti lost ~3% of it's people, where as Argentina will lose far fewer. So the battle for the surviving to deal with the dead is less exhaustive.

The news coverage has baffled me a bit. When Haiti was hit, CBC News was basically the all Haiti channel, you couldn't get coverage for anything else. But, for Argentina, it is business as usual.

We must not forget our ties to Haiti. Our Governor General is from there. Plus, the US has a large Haitian population, which helped spur media focus, here and south of us. I think this played a huge part.


you mean Chile?

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Orko
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Haha, I totally wrote the wrong country!

Post updated...same points!

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I'm almost certain Jayx was watching the hockey game and not the news on Chile


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I think Haiti received more help because of a collective feeling of guilt.


i doubt it. did you know that haiti had to pay reparations to france from 1825 to 1947 ???


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quote:
Originally posted by Otaku2K
Japan!


They want to clean up before excepting help...


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I wasn't tying to belittle the tragedy of ppl dying in Chile. These are my ppl afterall.

I'm just saying that Chile doesn't need as much help as Haiti did to recover from this event.

And putting these natural disasters up with the terrorism that was 9/11 is REALLY comparing apples to oranges...

Also, someone mentioned Katrina. The US didn't need any help for that disaster. The problem was that the gov didn't give a rats ass...


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quote:
Originally posted by VDub


Also, someone mentioned Katrina. The US didn't need any help for that disaster. The problem was that the gov didn't give a rats ass...



^^^^

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quote:
Originally posted by VDub
I wasn't tying to belittle the tragedy of ppl dying in Chile. These are my ppl afterall.

I'm just saying that Chile doesn't need as much help as Haiti did to recover from this event.

And putting these natural disasters up with the terrorism that was 9/11 is REALLY comparing apples to oranges...

Also, someone mentioned Katrina. The US didn't need any help for that disaster. The problem was that the gov didn't give a rats ass...


I wasn't talking about just help but the spectacle of sympathy/grief that prevailed after both those events.

Just because they're terrorist based events or lack of action from the government, in the end there's loss of life and property on a large scale PERIOD.

you can't say "oh well this country is better off so fuck em, I don't care how many people died or are homeless"

(although I know that's not what you, specifically, are saying)


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quote:
Originally posted by Jayx1
i blame wyclef...


youd think that this guy of all people would be the first to step up. Just shows u how non altruistic these people really are.

Help my homeland but fuckkit for everyone else.


Of course you blame him, you always end up blaming someone.

or he is just busy helping his homeland.

You are really the opportunist of the worst kind. If Chile's disaster happened prior to Haiti's you would be on here bitching that no one cares about Haiti.

You cant win.

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