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Originally posted by KilldaDJ listen, im only going to say this once. go to the kitchen, put the kettle on, pop tea bag in cup, brew, enjoy. *sips green tea with apples and pears* ahh, now isnt that better?

LOL! I was actually just reading about Green Tea. I swear it's a miracle drug. The amount of positive and clinically significant studies about Green Tea in the past decade is astounding.
I'm drinking 1-2 cups a day on average, often as a coffee substitute and I have to say I feel a lot better and healthier.

R!CH said one of the most important things too, exercise. It's well documented how much regular exercise reduces stress on top of all the health benefits we're all aware of.

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Originally posted by Fledz LOL! I was actually just reading about Green Tea. I swear it's a miracle drug. The amount of positive and clinically significant studies about Green Tea in the past decade is astounding. I'm drinking 1-2 cups a day on average, often as a coffee substitute and I have to say I feel a lot better and healthier.

I heard you need to be drinking in excess of 8 cups a day for it to have notable effect in any area. Post links bruz.

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Originally posted by echosystm I heard you need to be drinking in excess of 8 cups a day for it to have notable effect in any area. Post links bruz.

2-3 for good results, ideally around 5 for maximum effect. Even 1 cup has shown positive effects though.

http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?...dspice&dbid=146
References are at ze bottom.

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Originally posted by R!CH when people were still hunting and gathering in the pre-industrial world, there was no such thing as depression, or suicide. that's because they spent all day in the sun working and sweating and eating real food. try to realign your lifestyle along those lines as much as possible. processed foods and sedentary lifestyle is a proven formula for poor mood.

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Originally posted by RapidFire so very, very true!

lol, since there were clinical diagnoses back in those days

and LOL at no suicide... wtf are you basing these claims on? you think people in pre-industrial times were so happy?
by real food do you mean ANYTHING they could get their hands on which would stop them starving to death?

you and Pol Pot would have gotten on great... do you also think that anyone who is educated is trying to ruin the country you are a part of?
you and pol pot did have valid points though: if you killed all the psychologists, and sent every citizen to enforced work camps, dissalowing all access to medicine etc, there would be no depression... do you know why? yaaaaaaa... it would be just like pre-industrial times

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Originally posted by echosystm I heard you need to be drinking in excess of 8 cups a day for it to have notable effect in any area. Post links bruz.

PROOF

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Originally posted by EgosXII PROOF

The fuck does Green Tea have to do with a placebo?
You can't be retarded enough to say that it's all a myth and all tea is, is just leaves in water.

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Originally posted by jupiterone a 13 year old ukrainian girl just walked by with bell bottom bottom jeans and a thong that sticks out, shame.

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Originally posted by EgosXII lol, since there were clinical diagnoses back in those days and LOL at no suicide... wtf are you basing these claims on? you think people in pre-industrial times were so happy? by real food do you mean ANYTHING they could get their hands on which would stop them starving to death? you and Pol Pot would have gotten on great... do you also think that anyone who is educated is trying to ruin the country you are a part of? you and pol pot did have valid points though: if you killed all the psychologists, and sent every citizen to enforced work camps, dissalowing all access to medicine etc, there would be no depression... do you know why? yaaaaaaa... it would be just like pre-industrial times PROOF

what in the fucking hell are you babbling about???

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Originally posted by AnotherWay83 has anyone here ever been through extreme depression? if yes are you still suffering from it? how are you coping? if you got out, what did you do? what helped, what didn't?

I haven't. But I think I've experienced mild forms of it in the past, when jumping off a cliff felt like the biggest achievement I could ever have in life. Personally, I didn't think it was that bad, and I actually miss it. Now that I'm happier life does look way more exciting, but uglier. The world of the happy is quite different from the world of the unhappy, that's for sure.

If you think you're going through some sort of extreme depression, and you can't get out of bed and/or have suicidal thoughts every other minute, please go see a specialist. Right now! If you're asking yourself why bother, that's the depression speaking and it influences your life in ways you just can't imagine.

It's hard to give you advice with so little information. In my case pursuing my dream and cutting ties with toxic people worked: I'm happier than ever now that I'm living alone in working on a career I like, though I did remain miserable for a while even in this context.

But are you sure you're really depressed? Life is not supposed to be cheerful 24/7, you know?

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Originally posted by R!CH that answer is what drives up the cost of health care. you want him to get an insurance company to pay for a doctor's visit, maybe some brain scans and a blood test that verifies an imbalance, and then a scipt for overpriced meds that may or may not be temporarily effective at treating the symptom of an underlying problem. we are habitual creatures and if you've been living with bad habits for a long, long time, your brain function and blood chemistry will reflect that. that doesn't mean you have a medical condition that requires drugs. what this person should do is make tough lifestyle changes and hold to them for several weeks before running to the doctor for a quick fix. modifying your habits over time will modify how your mind and body works. a good doctor will tell him the same thing, a doctor trying to make spifs will dole out of the pricey exams and meds. the hardest part about depression is, i imagine, finding the motivation to take back control of your own life.

What? I was talkinga bout a psychiatrist.

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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On OOKA-OOKA ME NACHOS ME PRESS KEYS ON COMPUTER GOOD

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Originally posted by R!CH when people were still hunting and gathering in the pre-industrial world, there was no such thing as depression, or suicide. that's because they spent all day in the sun working and sweating and eating real food. try to realign your lifestyle along those lines as much as possible. processed foods and sedentary lifestyle is a proven formula for poor mood.

Right. It has nothing to do with the complex stressors of today's world at all. Food and exercise, yup. The ONLY two factors to consider when discussing how to treat depression. Lol.

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Originally posted by R!CH that answer is what drives up the cost of health care. you want him to get an insurance company to pay for a doctor's visit, maybe some brain scans and a blood test that verifies an imbalance, and then a scipt for overpriced meds that may or may not be temporarily effective at treating the symptom of an underlying problem. we are habitual creatures and if you've been living with bad habits for a long, long time, your brain function and blood chemistry will reflect that. that doesn't mean you have a medical condition that requires drugs. what this person should do is make tough lifestyle changes and hold to them for several weeks before running to the doctor for a quick fix. modifying your habits over time will modify how your mind and body works. a good doctor will tell him the same thing, a doctor trying to make spifs will dole out of the pricey exams and meds. the hardest part about depression is, i imagine, finding the motivation to take back control of your own life.

Furthermore, what you're talking about here equates to victim blaming...and while the average idiot still thinks this way about health and wellness (behavioural/lifestyle factors), people in the health care world have long moved beyond that type of thinking to recognize that there are a broad number of socioenvironmental factors that contribute to well-being. Or lack thereof.



Your type of thinking isn't entirely wrong, of course healthy habits/lifestyle are beneficial to good health; however, this is under the assumption that everybody has the same access to good food, exercise, etc. You need to understand that for some people, whether they want to choose a healthy lifestyle or not, there may be several barriers to them attaining it.


Yours is a simple answer to a much more complex problem than you clearly understand.

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