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Lira
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Okay. I meant "Asian" in the narrower, youporn category sense.

Why don't they count? Don't Mongolian girls count? Why do Vietnamese girls count but Kyrgyzesses don't?

I never thought I could be so ignorant about something I'm often made fun for


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TranceGiant
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Lol

And it's close to impossible to find a good looking kyrgyz chick, so kudos to you sir!


She was fucking ugly to be honest.


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She was fucking ugly to be honest.


Ouch.

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TranceGiant
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Why don't they count? Don't Mongolian girls count? Why do Vietnamese girls count but Kyrgyzesses don't?

I never thought I could be so ignorant about something I'm often made fun for


I think the Russian language is an automatic disqualifier.


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I think the Russian language is an automatic disqualifier.


Russian girls are HOT.

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I think the Russian language is an automatic disqualifier.


I'm Russian and I do find the language annoying as well. Especially when they mix it up with English.


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TranceGiant
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I meant to say that Russian disqualifies one from the "Asian" category - in response to Lira's question. I don't find Russian annoying, though. I like the language and studied it for a semester. On the other hand, I'm not a huge fan of the Slavic look. Some Russian girls are undoubtedly amazing, but it's not my cup of tea on average. I prefer the "softer" Czech tone.


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I'm Russian and I do find the language annoying as well. Especially when they mix it up with English.

Really? I think Russian is so cute
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Originally posted by TranceGiant
I meant to say that Russian disqualifies one from the "Asian" category - in response to Lira's question. I don't find Russian annoying, though.

But Kyrgyz ≠ Russian. They were just herding cattle and living jolly well in a Khanate when a drunken Russian legion said their land belonged to the czar. That's like saying the Chukchi aren't Asian because they're in Siberia, or that the Inuit are Yankees because they're now Canadians. Unless, of course, the girl in question was a green-eyed blonde, but then there's no reason why you'd think she was Vietnamese. Unless she was a French Viet.

You know what, this is all too confusing!


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Kyrgyz Rioting Spreads in Apparent Ethnic Violence

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BATKEN, Kyrgyzstan — Rioting spread across the south of this strategically important Central Asian nation on Sunday as the authorities failed to contain mobs that appeared to be increasingly engaging in targeted ethnic violence.

The official death toll neared 100 people, though the unrest seemed so widespread that the figure is likely to go far higher. Reports from the region said bands of ethnic Kyrgyz were seeking out Uzbeks, setting fire to their homes and killing them.

Thousands of Uzbeks have fled to the nearby border with Uzbekistan, and the authorities were said to have lost control of Osh, Kyrgyzstan’s second largest city.

On Saturday, the fragile Kyrgyz provisional government asked neighboring Russia to send in peacekeeping troops.

The situation in the Osh region has spun out of control in a third day of clashes in southern Kyrgyzstan on Saturday, the Kyrgyz provisional government asked Russia to send in troops.

With the death toll in and around Osh, Kyrgyzstan’s second largest city, reaching 77 and a state of emergency extending to a second city, the government acknowledged that its efforts to end the violence had been fruitless.

“The situation in the Osh region has spun out of control,” said Kyrgyzstan’s acting president, Roza Otunbayeva. “Attempts to establish a dialogue have failed, and fighting and rampages are continuing. We need outside forces to quell confrontation.”

But Russia, which has a small military base in the north and has been a political patron of this former Soviet republic, said only that it would consider the request.

A spokeswoman for President Dmitri A. Medvedev of Russia said that no decision would be made until at least Monday, when Russia will consult with other members of the Collective Security Treaty Organization, a regional security alliance of former Soviet republics.

“A decision about deploying peacekeeping forces to Kyrgyzstan can only be made collectively with all members of the C.S.T.O.,” the spokeswoman, Natalya Timakova, said Saturday evening. She also said that Russia was continuing to ship humanitarian assistance, including medicine, to Kyrgyzstan.

It remained unclear what started the violence, which threatens to undermine the already fragile provisional government that took power in April after rioting deposed the country’s president. The interim government has never fully established control in parts of the south, where supporters of the ousted president, Kurmanbek S. Bakiyev, have frequently clashed with those loyal to the new government.

The country is host to an important United States military base on the outskirts of the capital, Bishkek, that is used to support the NATO mission in Afghanistan.

On Saturday, heavily armed gangs continued to battle on the streets of Osh, burning and looting as they rampaged through the city.

“It was raining ash the whole afternoon, big pieces of black and while ash,” said Andrea Berg, a Human Rights Watch employee holed up her apartment in the city. “The city is just burning. It’s totally out of control.”

The rioters at one point commandeered two armored personnel carriers from troops stationed in the city, said Timur Sharshenaliyev, a spokesman for the government there. Soldiers were able to take only one back.

The provisional government passed a decree giving the police and soldiers permission to open fire on rioters to prevent attacks on civilians and government buildings, according to a statement on the government’s Web site.

The authorities also ordered a partial mobilization of military forces throughout the country, indicating the government may fear the spread of violence to other regions.

Yelena K. Bayalinova, a spokeswoman for the Kyrgyz Health Ministry, said that in addition to the killings, nearly 1,000 people had been wounded, most with gunshot wounds.

Meanwhile the violence spread to a second city, Jalalabad, where the government declared a state of emergency on Saturday. At least six people have died in clashes there and dozens more have been wounded, Ms. Bayalinova said.

The recent politically inspired clashes in the region have reopened a historic ethnic fault line there, with gangs of heavily armed Kyrgyz youths clashing with members of the region’s sizeable Uzbek minority. Much of Mr. Bakiyev’s base in the region, his ancestral home, is Kyrgyz, while many Uzbeks support the new government.

Mr. Sharshenaliyev, the government spokesman in Osh, said the military had opened a corridor to allow Uzbek women, children and the elderly to escape across the border, though he said he did not know whether Uzbekistan was prepared to receive them. The Associated Press reported that several children were killed in a stampede at one border crossing.

Uzbekistan said it was “extremely alarmed and concerned” about the situation. The Uzbek Foreign Ministry said in a statement that violence against Uzbeks was being carried out in a manner calculated to provoke ethnic conflict.

The Kremlin said that Mr. Medvedev spoke Saturday with the presidents of Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan about the violence. Russia also sent a plane to Kyrgyzstan to provide humanitarian aid and medical assistance, as well as to evacuate the wounded.

The Kyrgyz government has deployed troops, armored personnel carriers and helicopters. Soldiers with automatic weapons gathered at the Bishkek airport early Saturday morning awaiting transport to Osh, some downing a few vodka shots before they set off.

Russia and the United States have in recent years been jockeying for influence in Kyrgyzstan, and deploying soldiers there could help solidify Russia’s foothold. Russia has frequently chafed at the American military presence in what it considers its sphere of influence.

Russia appeared to support the protest movement that led to Mr. Bakiyev’s ouster, and it has sought closer relations with Kyrgyzstan’s new authorities.

Officials of the provisional government frequently travel to Moscow for talks with high-ranking Russians, including Mr. Medvedev and Prime Minister Vladimir V. Putin.

Under Mr. Bakiyev, the Kyrgyz government appeared to favor the United States. Mr. Bakiyev incensed the Kremlin when he reneged on a tacit agreement to close the American base in exchange for more Russian aid.

The provisional government took control after riots forced Mr. Bakiyev from power on April 7. In those riots more than 80 people were killed when the police and presidential guards opened fire on demonstrators, who had gathered in Bishkek to protest government corruption and rising utility prices.

The new government, though unelected and made up of an uneasy alliance of political forces, quickly established control over the capital and the north of the country, but not in the south.

The south of Kyrgyzstan is part of the Ferghana Valley, a fertile strip of land that has a long history of interethnic strife and includes parts of Uzbekistan and Tajikistan. Similar violence between Kyrgyz and Uzbeks in Osh in 1990 left hundreds dead and only abated when the Soviet government sent in troops.



Source: NY Times


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