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Originally posted by woscar What's your stance on nostalgic twenty-somethings who just can't shut the fuck up about early 90s Trance or late 90s Progressive?

I've devoted a string of mixes to the task of stopping them whining about how things used to be better.

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> Dance:Love:Hub Afterparty (The Return) 23.11.24

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Just saw it in the theatre, and holy shit it was good. I can't possibly think of any way that Pixar will top this, but I'm sure they will surprise us.

edit: plus the short film in the beginning was better than whole movies that some studios put out

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Originally posted by bas we're just rolling in that sweet sweet Beatport chedda SON. I PUT DIAMONDS IN MY SALT SHAKER SO I CAN HAVE CRUSHED DIAMONDS ON MY FOOD...it makes my dookie twinkle!!!

Last edited by leph555 on Jun-19-2010 at 13:28

Off to it right now.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J I've devoted a string of mixes to the task of stopping them whining about how things used to be better.

But those mixes prove things WERE far better back then

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Originally posted by DJ RANN But those mixes prove things WERE far better back then

Those mixes proved what was far better back then and, as far as I'm concerned, still prove, even by today's standards, the value in the work that was put into each song. But let's not confuse assessing value with nostalgia. They're two completely different things. I have an affinity for Apocalypse Now. I grew up with it, in my childhood. The things I currently appreciate about the movie, however, differ vastly from why I liked watching it as a child.

EDITED to clarify my point.

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Last edited by EddieZilker on Jun-19-2010 at 05:39

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J I think things are fine now. I'm in a better position now than I ever was as a teenager. This is my point. I'm 22. Why the fuck would anyone start being nostalgic at 22? If your childhood was the peak of your life, what's the point? I have plenty of happy memories from childhood. I enjoy thinking of good moments in my life but I don't wallow in the past to provide happiness. The time for nostalgia is at the end of your life when things are drawing to a close. If you're 22 years old and you're already getting misty eyed about being 6 years old then you're wasting your life.

I don't see that nostalgia inherently connotes a wallowing in the past as a means of providing happiness in the present, or idealizing it in such a way that it becomes the retrospective climax of their life experiences (though I'm not denying that this is certainly an incarnation of it). I'm fairly confident that most commonly understand and experience nostalgia in precisely the way you described: the deriving of a sense of happiness from reflecting on a period of time that itself considered to be pleasurable, in an at least selective capacity, if not in an all-inclusive one. With that in mind, there's nothing problematic or developmentally immature with being nostalgic in your twenties, for by your twenties, you've undergone an extended period of time in your life that has since come to an end, even if your life isn't drawing to a close.

The annoyances I find with it (which are more consistent with the criticisms you're leveraging) are when people reminisce over their youth with an overblown sense of passion and zeal that would seem to suggest they were at the end of their lives, or have at least cleared the peak of it.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J Because, believe it or not, I know a lot of nostalgic twenty-somethings who just can't shut the fuck up about children's cartoons from the early 90s.

The more obnoxious nostalgic twenty-somethings seem to have slowly developed an equally obnoxious culture of nostalgia around themselves, and depending upon which variety of them you are, owning one of these in your room or on a shirt is nearly mandatory:



Not a 90's cartoon, I realize, though still aligned with my point.

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Last edited by Paradox Lost on Jun-19-2010 at 08:41

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Originally posted by DJ RANN But those mixes prove things WERE far better back then

I can't decide if you're saying "Your mixes suck!" or if you mistakenly think the Epic House mixes are the only things I've ever done. Although those weren't nostalgia mixes as such, because I was getting into the style for the first time and wanted to share it in a "This is some forgotten history" kind of way.

I do think that people obsessed over how past music is better, whether they actually remember it or not, is a slightly different mutation of the same mindset I'm railing against, and isn't particularly relevant to this thread. Saying I'm nostalgically obsessed with 90s prog is about as accurate as Existo saying woscar likes "minimal hipster shit".

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Originally posted by Paradox Lost The annoyances I find with it (which are more consistent with the criticisms you're leveraging) are when people reminisce over their youth with an overblown sense of passion and zeal that would seem to suggest they were at the end of their lives, or have at least cleared the peak of it. The more obnoxious nostalgic twenty-somethings seem to have slowly developed an equally obnoxious culture of nostalgia around themselves, and depending upon which variety of them you are, owning one of these in your room or on a shirt is nearly mandatory

I think when you have twenty-somethings piling into cinemas to watch a children's film because the original came out when they were six is when you've reached that point. That isn't just fondly thinking about your past, as everyone does, that's actively reliving it. You're exactly right about this "cult of nostalgia". I'm fed up of going to parties and inevitably the conversation will turn to old cartoons or old kids' films. People who download entire series' of Sabrina The Teenage Witch, or the 90s cartoon incarnation of X-Men, or other such bollocks.

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> Maximum Elevation [Progressive House]
> DI.FM 26th Anniversary Guest Mix [Progressive House]
> Live @ Dance:Love:Hub London, 11.10.2025
> Higher Peaks [Progressive House]
> Dance:Love:Hub Afterparty (The Return) 23.11.24

Like these sets? Come see me play live at Kibosh in Manchester: https://www.instagram.com/kibosh.mcr/

Absolutely adorable. I came out with a huge smile on my face and I almost cried during, how much more pathetic can I get?

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I give it a B+

Like Bill Marr said: "This movie better give me a Buss and a Woody"

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Originally posted by ModernNosferatu Like Bill Marr said: "This movie better give me a Buss and a Woody"

And what did Bill Maher have to say?

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles And what did Bill Maher have to say?

Exactly what I just quoted him as saying, Yessssss...I misspelt his name. Go enjoy your cake now.

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