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Originally posted by evo8 sounds like your track is highpassed, i was waiting for the bass to kick in but it never happened, rest of the track is ok but you may have a bit too much going on in it, my 2c

edit: I had typed out that I found what the problem was but it wasn't the filter, still looking around but it does kinda sound hipassed.

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Originally posted by DJ Robby Rox Ok new track! Theres a lead line that sounds strangely familiar, almost like I've heard it in another track somewhere. I don't really like it that much though so I'll be changing it completely. But I just needed to drop something after the bass. I'm much happier with this example, my kicks still need a lot of work, and the bass although much better is still generic. Its 3 layers, one passing through a subtle phaser. But the typical saw/noise bass with a lp envelope and hi pass filter to bring it in. link

What synth you use for the bass?

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Originally posted by DJ Robby Rox edit: I had typed out that I found what the problem was but it wasn't the filter, still looking around but it does kinda sound hipassed.

Just needs more sub-bass in either the kick or bass itself i think

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Originally posted by atxbigballer1 What synth you use for the bass?

Its 2 - 3osc synths and an ollllddd trilogy sample that I rendered to soundfont back in the day.

Believe it or not the real "umpphh" is coming from the 3osc alone, specifically the phased noise in it.
The soundfont is only adding a bit of low end, no special character at all. The second 3 - osc is for the saws mainly. Just to get some more "teeth" in the bass. But they're not detuned, not distorted at all, and its mainly just a plain saw wave from that synth.

The first 3OSC is where the "juice" comes from. W/out that synth you would laugh at the bassline. It has 2 saw oscillators and 1 noise. Going through a basic lp env and the noise is turned up a bit louder than usual.
I passed those 2 saw/noise through a very subtle phaser, and if you listen closely ALL the brightness in that sound is from the noise/phaser alone. Its not the typical base where you hear the entire bass phasing back and forth, its just enough phase to throw off some transients from the noise. As I didn't want any kind of sweeping effects going on.

And then its just a hipass filter with the resonance turned up about a little bit.

Hope this helps. I never get asked about my basslines so thanks! Makes me feel like Im learning something.

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Originally posted by evo8 Just needs more sub-bass in either the kick or bass itself i think

I fixed that I fixed it perfectly actually.

I took a massive drone from triology, very analog and dark sounding. I wound up having a sustained drone right after a short drone. So one drone is always anticipating the next. It creates a very strong drive now to the mid bass and really fills out the mix beautifully.

I'm still having issues though cause the kick can use a little more snap and low end. So once I get that settled I'll get a new example up!! But its already sounding better with the drone.

Last edited by DJ Robby Rox on Aug-21-2010 at 23:16

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Robbyrox, imo, you seem to approach production in a far too mechanical and technical manner. You seem to consider every single detail of every single element to the extreme. You focus too much on these details and lose sight of the bigger picture.

You also seem to second guess yourself, forever changing each part, feeling that layer 2 of your bass lacks enough bite, layer 3 needs more phaser and cuts to the high mids, one hi-hat needing a boost to the highs while another hihat needs a sharper transient etc etc.

It is no wonder you struggle to finish anything.

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