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gmilf
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quote:
Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
If somebody shoots back after you shoot them, you're obviously doing it wrong.

haha

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Halcyon+On+On
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Well I think tightening regulation is only one half of the solution. I'd like to see licenses of course requiring a mandatory set of safety/instruction courses that are out of pocket, but just the same should poor people be excluded from basic self-defense with that in mind?

Therein lies the other half of the somewhat unrealistic resolution: People do not break into homes because their lives are awesome. The kid in the article, for example- 17 fucking years old. Orphaned. It's not hard to step out of yourself for a moment and realize that his life was probably shit to begin with, and this one incident ended up costing him his physical mobility as well as his freedom. Was this the beginning of a possible life of crime, or the result of many bad choices, not all of them entirely his fault? Self-defense is a response to avarice, plain and simple. If there existed something to show people that a lawful existence is worth it- to provide opportunity for youth with so very little going for them besides drugs and robbery- I think that would do far more to alter violent incident than any prohibitions on the monkey tools we use to maim one another.

But as is, the most notorious social programs that exist in the US are just regulatory drug education that install half-truths to children destined for minimum wage existence. It's enough to make you wanna shoot people!


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Blake
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"Manatee County jail" lol...


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The17sss
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quote:
Originally posted by shaw
Bradenton might just be the worst place in the continental US.


lol... dude, in high school I played basketball and one year we had to play against Palmetto High, the school those kids went to. We referred to it as "Palm-Ghetto" for good reason. My entire basketball team was white too... haha. During pre-game warm ups, a group of African American youths had taken the book from the scorers table so they could know our names, and started calling us out, saying shit like "Tim Holtz! Ay, Tim Holtz! We gonna come by yo' house! Lock yo' sista's door, bitch!" or "Ay... Ay Jason, duh blacka duh berry duh sweeta da joose!" I'm not gonna lie, it was kind of scary.

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Comrade Stalin
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Manatee county! Don't live there -_-

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pkcRAISTLIN
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quote:
Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
Well I think tightening regulation is only one half of the solution. I'd like to see licenses of course requiring a mandatory set of safety/instruction courses that are out of pocket, but just the same should poor people be excluded from basic self-defense with that in mind?

Therein lies the other half of the somewhat unrealistic resolution: People do not break into homes because their lives are awesome. The kid in the article, for example- 17 fucking years old. Orphaned. It's not hard to step out of yourself for a moment and realize that his life was probably shit to begin with, and this one incident ended up costing him his physical mobility as well as his freedom. Was this the beginning of a possible life of crime, or the result of many bad choices, not all of them entirely his fault? Self-defense is a response to avarice, plain and simple. If there existed something to show people that a lawful existence is worth it- to provide opportunity for youth with so very little going for them besides drugs and robbery- I think that would do far more to alter violent incident than any prohibitions on the monkey tools we use to maim one another.

But as is, the most notorious social programs that exist in the US are just regulatory drug education that install half-truths to children destined for minimum wage existence. It's enough to make you wanna shoot people!


faggot.

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You an' me, Pip, let's MEET.


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pkcRAISTLIN
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quote:
Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
You an' me, Pip, let's MEET.


Only if I get to be the big spoon.

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I'll let you be the tongs.


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infiniteJEST
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Registered: Mar 2008
Location: frolicking w/ minstrels, online.

Warms my heart to see two little sweethearts banter so. I love young love more than anything in this world. Nothing like looking at their white hands and soft hair, and knowing that they are not as good as they seem to be if one only knew. But boys of that kind ought to be whipped and well-whipped. A slap on the hand or a box on the ear is no good: what they want is a nice warm whipping. There's nothing in this world like whipping an unruly lad to teach him to not be talking to the other boys, a well whipping's a craft. I love it more than anything in this world.


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quote:
Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
I'll let you be the tongs.


call me

Old Post Sep-30-2010 23:09  Australia
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