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stealthman
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I've been studying astrology long enough now in order to determine how true it is based on subjective analysis of various people that I know and my everyday experimental discourses to determine the accuracy of astrology through the analysis of noticing traits and comparing amongst various individuals, actually proves astrology to be 99.9999% correct (don't ask for facts, study it yourself). People who say it's bullshit are either too close-minded or have an inflated sense of ego shoved far up their ass.

The reason why people tend to say it's bullshit is because of some trivial reading printed in newspapers where it obviously doesn't have any relevance to their lifestyle. These are simply for fun, hence why I refer to them as trivial readings. Astrology seems very intricate, and complicated when you steep further into its details of how it all works behind our physical and mental makeup. I for example, am a Capricorn with Cancer as my ascendant. Capricorns are typically seen or described as a monotonous, boring bunch, always located on the sidelines of a social event whilst suddenly becoming the center of all sardonic humor and sarcastic wit (just like Lira, no offense ). I however have Cancer as an ascendant (where the ascendant is our inner psych). What suprised me was that nearly everything about my personality was based on typical Cancerian attributes, the begrudging, sensitive, emotional, irritable, introverted type with a penchant for anything with a sense of darkness or melancholic (not in an emo way but yes sometimes!).

To verify this shit was all true, I've compared myself to other Capricorns and differed MAJORLY. Once again, every human being contains a unique astrological composition. Nobody is the same.
And btw, I have never met a Gemini in my entire life who was not dualistic or had a knack for endless conversation and debate, ever. So there.


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quote:
Originally posted by stealthman
I've been studying astrology long enough now in order to determine how true it is based on subjective analysis of various people that I know and my everyday experimental discourses to determine the accuracy of astrology through the analysis of noticing traits and comparing amongst various individuals, actually proves astrology to be 99.9999% correct (don't ask for facts, study it yourself). People who say it's bullshit are either too close-minded or have an inflated sense of ego shoved far up their ass.

The reason why people tend to say it's bullshit is because of some trivial reading printed in newspapers where it obviously doesn't have any relevance to their lifestyle. These are simply for fun, hence why I refer to them as trivial readings. Astrology seems very intricate, and complicated when you steep further into its details of how it all works behind our physical and mental makeup. I for example, am a Capricorn with Cancer as my ascendant. Capricorns are typically seen or described as a monotonous, boring bunch, always located on the sidelines of a social event whilst suddenly becoming the center of all sardonic humor and sarcastic wit (just like Lira, no offense ). I however have Cancer as an ascendant (where the ascendant is our inner psych). What suprised me was that nearly everything about my personality was based on typical Cancerian attributes, the begrudging, sensitive, emotional, irritable, introverted type with a penchant for anything with a sense of darkness or melancholic (not in an emo way but yes sometimes!).

To verify this shit was all true, I've compared myself to other Capricorns and differed MAJORLY. Once again, every human being contains a unique astrological composition. Nobody is the same.
And btw, I have never met a Gemini in my entire life who was not dualistic or had a knack for endless conversation and debate, ever. So there.


Nice Post...possibly Lira's ALT but still an enjoyable read.

Is there a web site that will tell you what your ascendant is? My Mom and her brother are both Cancers and I have dated many Cancers as well. I find their spastic emotional drive hard for me to put into details, basically it effects me in a way that disturbs me but at the same time, I am sort of quite envious of their emotions because I find it endearing that they have so much compassion compared to my Capricorn traits, I have smoked Cigs for a long time and I always joke I will die of Cancer because Cancers effect me very well all through my life.


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Lira
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All right, my turn (nah, that wasn't an alt of mine, just a fellow Capricorn doing what we do best: annoying everyone else with our tree-hugging intellectualism ).

Although astrology is too complex a pseudo-science, and its descriptions tend to be too vague, I've got to admit it's more credible than homoeopathy (which is just hyperbollocks), though not as credible as acupuncture (i.e. the metaphysics behind it is completely unreliable, but may yield the occasional good result). Why? Because a theory doesn't need to be true to be good, and it's a matter of degree. The claims of astrology need not be accurate to give us predictions that are better than chance (though Indian astrology doesn't, and I'd like to see a similar study done with our version) - and, just to state a quick truism, something that is better than chance is better than nothing. If Western astrology passes the test of "being slightly better than chance", then just let it be.

Like I said before, I'm a Capricorn (and Sagittarius is my ascendant). Does that say anything about the alignment of the stars when I was born? Not at all. Am I influenced by the aforementioned constellations? Hardly, and believing so is likely an egregious error. Before I go on, let me be clear that I think the theory behind astrology is as hard to swallow as the teachings of any given reiki master... but perhaps the social belief that you belong to a certain group of people (among other more credible hypotheses) may be behind it. If you've got enough people that believe their zodiacal signs mean something, it will mean something, thanks to the power of culture (and nothing to do with stars).

However, astrology lovers have been able to guess my zodiacal sign quite frequently, and my two favourite authors (who happen to have a worldview very similar to mine), were born on the week I was born. As a matter of fact, it's a week that's produced a fair lot of humanist anarchists, like Pierre-Joseph Proudhon and other annoying plur'd out rebels like Martin Luther King. Might just be a coincidence, and I'd be hard-pressed to come up with a reason why it can't be so, but it's nonetheless a very interesting correlation. Is this just confirmation bias? Possibly. So, whereas I wouldn't take astrology too seriously because I'm fully aware of our tendency to see patterns even when there isn't one, it's still barrels of fun... specially for pulling birds!

As for Cancers, that's my fiancée's ascendant, and some of my best relationships are with Cancer girl friends. It's far from being a universal though.

Anyone know of any double-blind tests disproving astrology? Now that would be interesting... Found a study that apparently disproves astrology... unsurprisingly, I guess that's just fun and games then
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This bit is so true!
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Capricorns are typically seen or described as a monotonous, boring bunch, always located on the sidelines of a social event whilst suddenly becoming the center of all sardonic humor and sarcastic wit (just like Lira, no offense )

Oi!
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Originally posted by ModernNosferatu
Is there a web site that will tell you what your ascendant is?

www.astro.com


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quote:
Originally posted by Lira
All right, my turn (nah, that wasn't an alt of mine, just a fellow Capricorn doing what we do best: annoying everyone else with our tree-hugging intellectualism ).

Although astrology is too complex a pseudo-science, and its descriptions tend to be too vague, I've got to admit it's more credible than homoeopathy (which is just hyperbollocks), and perhaps as credible as acupuncture (i.e. the metaphysics behind it is completely unreliable, but may yield the occasional good result). Why? Because a theory doesn't need to be true to be good. The claims of astrology need not be accurate to give us predictions that are better than chance - and, just to state a quick truism, something that is better than chance is better than nothing.

Like I said before, I'm a Capricorn (and Sagittarius is my ascendant). Does that say anything about the alignment of the stars when I was born? Not at all. Am I influenced by the aforementioned constellations? Hardly, and believing so is likely an egregious error. Before I go on, let's me be clear that I think the theory behind astrology is as hard to swallow as the teachings of any given reiki master... but perhaps the social belief that you belong to a certain group of people (among other more credible hypotheses) may be behind it.

However, astrology lovers have been able to guess my zodiacal sign quite frequently, and my two favourite authors (who happen to have a worldview very similar to mine), were born on the week I was born. As a matter of fact, it's a week that's produced a fair lot of humanist anarchists, like Pierre-Joseph Proudhon and other annoying plur'd out rebels like Martin Luther King. Might just be a coincidence, and I'd be hard-pressed to come up with a reason why it can't be so, but it's nonetheless a very interesting correlation. So, whereas I wouldn't take astrology too seriously because I'm fully aware of our tendency to see patterns even when there isn't one, it's still barrels of fun, and may one day turn out to be on to something (though I'm not holding my breath).

As for Cancers, that's my fiancée's ascendant, and some of my best relationships are with Cancer girl friends.

Anyone know of any double-blind tests disproving astrology? Now that would be interesting...



This bit is so true!

Oi!

www.astro.com


My TA friend (yes we don't know each other well), I am getting drunk now although still coherent. But that site isn't rationalization with the Bourbon and Dr. Pepper I am drinking. You think you can deceiver my ascendant if I give you the correct information. I'd appreciate it...only if you have the time.

g.f and I got into a fight today, although living together she decided to spend the night at her parents, which is fine with me, she hit me today in the face and thinks, that is OK because she is a female, this isn't quite the reason I am drinking tonight as we were supposed to drink together but I think she needs to move out of my house so I can find another woman in time as I have never been one to jump so easily into another relationship so easily. In my younger years I would just go out clubbing and sleep with anyone I found attractive woman to sleep with but never bounced from a relation to another so fast. Sex is sex but a relationship means a lot more to me so I always chose random sex over a true relationship. I mean, I'm an attractive man but my lack of confidence lately has lead me into this relationship that I am in currently. Do you think you can help me out on that web site you posted?


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Lira
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quote:
Originally posted by ModernNosferatu
Do you think you can help me out on that web site you posted?

Actually, it's quite simple.

Fill out this form and let the site do the rest.


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Actually, it's quite simple.

Fill out this form and let the site do the rest.


Lira, please forgiveme but I am extremly drunk right now. There is only 2 functions I CAN DO WHILE THIS DRUNK AS I AM

1. Play Super Street Fighter 4

2. play chess

help a brotha out on this website.


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Your number 8 with black lines around your eyes, shades to hide your habits. I don't know your age but you guessed mine, my sign, your sign. The opening line is always just the same, the same intentions...destinations, just you and me and rainbows.

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Lira
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  1. Click here;
  2. Fill out form;
  3. Click here;


There you go, it can't get any easier than these 3 steps

ps.: You better be playing SF4 with Cammy.


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Originally posted by Lira

  1. Click here;
  2. Fill out form;
  3. Click here;


There you go, it can't get any easier than these 3 steps

ps.: You better be playing SF4 with Cammy.


Cammy is really good bro...I go for the underdogs...Makoto and Ken are my mains.


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Your number 8 with black lines around your eyes, shades to hide your habits. I don't know your age but you guessed mine, my sign, your sign. The opening line is always just the same, the same intentions...destinations, just you and me and rainbows.

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interesting.... to the degree that I wasn't born in San Antonio,TX.

I was born in Springfield. ILL.


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Your number 8 with black lines around your eyes, shades to hide your habits. I don't know your age but you guessed mine, my sign, your sign. The opening line is always just the same, the same intentions...destinations, just you and me and rainbows.

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Lira
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That's because you should've written your birth city, not the place where you currently live


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That's because you should've written your birth city, not the place where you currently live


Durrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

I agree, I be drunk....you play Chess Lira?


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Your number 8 with black lines around your eyes, shades to hide your habits. I don't know your age but you guessed mine, my sign, your sign. The opening line is always just the same, the same intentions...destinations, just you and me and rainbows.

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Lira
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Nah, too hyperactive for that. I do know the rules and I've played it a few times, but I usually lose patience before the end of the game


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