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quote:
Originally posted by cryophonik

@112268 - how would apply your mathematical approach to non-western music? And, if you're only talking about chords, how does that apply to the topic of this thread (i.e., key changes)?



thats the whole point. we might miss hidden notes which for example non-western music use, just because our piano has limit itself to 11 keys while there might be other frequencies that match better.

m4b:
my source for the frequencies was here: http://www.contrabass.com/pages/frequency.html

i hope they are wrong so that maybe my calbulations would be more right. I see that you already knew the math behind from your table. Thanks, would save me alot of time lol.

you say that the third major (i called it E, if C is root, because i dont know the terms) is 5/4 which is 25% above root, more exact calculation than mine, and would actually confirm that Major could be more favored than minor (oposite of my beliefs). thanks for the table.

oh and where did I use F? I think in my example i used G as fifth and E as third. the whole point of my calculation was to find which note was the easiest syncable to root major or minor third, but with your table it is already clear lol. i guess the freq-table i found wasnt exact enough.

but sure as hell i was onto something.
maybe the piano is designed by math after all? lol wouldnt surprice me. if so ill grab my coat lol.

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Originally posted by 112268
thats the whole point. we might miss hidden notes which for example non-western music use, just because our piano has limit itself to 11 keys while there might be other frequencies that match better.

m4b:
my source for the frequencies was here: http://www.contrabass.com/pages/frequency.html

i hope they are wrong so that maybe my calbulations would be more right. I see that you already knew the math behind from your table. Thanks, would save me alot of time lol.



pianos are not the only instrument. There are tons of microtonal music around.


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i think ill just stick too looping techno and dnb.
i have not a chance in this department.
luckily my ears are better than my mind.

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I equate this whole discussion to attempting to translate Shakespeare into binary code.

"A rose by any other name" evokes something that:

0100000100100000011100100110111101110011011001010010000001100010011110010010000001100001011011100111
10010010000001101111011101000110100001100101011100100010000001101110011000010110110101100101

....simply doesn't...in my opinion. YMMV.


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yet you have forgotten what all those binary codes have given us.

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You are missing the point


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quote:
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yet you have forgotten what all those binary codes have given us.


No, I haven't forgotten. I just know that, by simplifying the words to 1s and 0s, the underlying meaning went out the window AFAIC. That's the same thing that happens to me when people try to quantify music using mathematical terms. But, if it works for you, knock yourself out and I'll stick to my outdated/retarded method.


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quote:
Originally posted by Looney4Clooney
You are missing the point


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http://www.roubaixinteractive.com/P...ary_To_Text.asp


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quote:
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if you all like encoded stuff so much why dont you speak chinese then

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