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Originally posted by lawrenceq Following this, say if I have an arp'd pattern and a middish bass that seem to drown each other out as they share similar frequency, what is my best tactic in order to hear them both clearly?

Best way to do this personally is to slap a parametric EQ on both and watch for the peaks while they play at the same time -- if they're loudest in the exact same frequency range you might be better off picking a better sound for one of them. otherwise just lower the frequencies around the peaks, but not to the point where they start losing their character..

There's probably a better way to explain it but either way, EQing would be the first step, I'd imagine.

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Originally posted by lawrenceq The "why" is pretty key here, thanks for the advice. I just spent the evening solo'ing out sounds and doing freq sweeps to really see where they fall and then doing more of that "cutting away" of whats needed... Following this, say if I have an arp'd pattern and a middish bass that seem to drown each other out as they share similar frequency, what is my best tactic in order to hear them both clearly? I would upload a sample but im not near my stuff right now. Thanks in advance. LQ

couple of ways to attack that..you could like the previous poster said, slap a parametric eq with an analyzer on and analyze each part to find the 'gspot' of each part and then cut where you think the focal point of the bass is on the arp and vice versa.

you could try to sidechain the arp and the mid bass so that the arp isnt playing when the bass is hitting, or just program the arp so the notes on the arp aren't interfering with the bass.

you could also get into the ADSR of the arp and tweak the decay and attack so they aren't interfering with the bass.

another thing that i been using alot lately to fit in sounds is a transient designer (schaack is my fav) and enveloper (logic's) to shape the attacks of certain sounds so they won't clash.

but honestly, if the sound isn't fitting in the beginning, it most likely won't fit even with all the eqing in the world..i've noticed over the years to pick the right parts from the start, it will make things a hell of alot easier come mixdown time.

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Thanks for the advice guys, Ive been attempting some of the above techniques. The point about sounds that "fit" together is really important to note, as said above, some thing just will not mesh no matter what you do to them. I am learning Logic pro 9 coming from Cubase 4, so its a bit of a change, but this DAW is pretty fantastic. The track in question ive been working on is the remix from the Activa remix comp, Telic... I'll be sure to post something at some point if anyone's interested, thanks again

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Originally posted by lawrenceq The "why" is pretty key here, thanks for the advice. I just spent the evening solo'ing out sounds and doing freq sweeps to really see where they fall and then doing more of that "cutting away" of whats needed... Following this, say if I have an arp'd pattern and a middish bass that seem to drown each other out as they share similar frequency, what is my best tactic in order to hear them both clearly? I would upload a sample but im not near my stuff right now. Thanks in advance. LQ

Dont play the 2 sounds at the same time
or move one of the sounds up or down an octave
or drop one of the sounds altogether

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Originally posted by sot but honestly, if the sound isn't fitting in the beginning, it most likely won't fit even with all the eqing in the world..i've noticed over the years to pick the right parts from the start, it will make things a hell of alot easier come mixdown time.

This is correct

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