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EddieZilker
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Re: pursuit of happiness?

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Originally posted by OrangestO



The sad shit is always going to happen and always going to make you sad. There's just no way around it. Now, if you're doing shit that makes you sad, like drinking (just an example - doesn't have to be drinking) which gets you into raging fights with your girlfriend or causes you to lose friends, you have a choice in the matter. You are responsible for the dysfunction you create for yourself, you will never see past the chaos you create in others and you will never understand why you seem to attract the people who create the chaos in you until you stop fucking doing it. The sad shit is always going to happen but if you're doing happy shit, that doesn't involve fucking yourself or anyone else over, chances are you can offset the sad shit that's always happening, regardless of whether you enjoy yourself, or not.


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nefardec
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Originally posted by OrangestO
Yes! We define our own happiness by what we've perceived, been told or acknowledged as being happiness from our birth. Our external influences!

My question is, how do we reject these external influences (that are and will always be there) from impacting how we feel about ourselves and the world around us?

Is it possible, or do we need to accept our existence with the external influences and somehow manage to manipulate our own minds to find a sense of overall happiness?


i think the problem is seeing yourself as separate from the world around you in the first place. root of all evil and unhappiness IMO

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OrangestO
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Originally posted by kadomony
by understanding how our minds work and attribute value to things. practice noticing what you've learned on a daily basis and it'll become natural after a while.

not saying that the "uncomfortableness" of being subjected to social conditioning will go away, but at least you'll know why it's there and how to deal with it.


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Yes, and unfortunately it takes more than a night to untie the thought processes that our surroundings and society have managed to tie together into knots of conformity and commercialism.

It's a catch 22, in my opinion.

You get older, wiser and start to discover what makes you internally happy, yet during that time your life experiences also lead you to uncover the many negative and degrading aspects of humanity exist in our society and civilization.

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Omega_Blue
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Perhaps you think I've set myself an impossible challenge here?
Not so. The meaning of life is pretty straightforward to state. Your life has whatever meaning you give to it. So the question becomes: what do people say gives their lives meaning? That's easy enough to measure and psychologists have done exactly that.

Baumeister and Vohs (2002) have synthesised four factors. When people are asked, the more they report each of these four factors being fulfilled, the more meaningful their lives feel:

Purpose - this could be living happily ever after, going to heaven or even (whisper it) found at work. Whatever it is, meaning in life comes from reaching goals and feeling fulfilled. Even though fulfilment is hard to achieve because the state fades, people need purpose.
Values - people need a moral structure to work out what is right and what is wrong. There are plenty to choose from: some come from religion, others from philosophy and still others from your friends and family.
Efficacy - people want to make a difference and have some control over their environment. Without that, the meaning of life is reduced.
Self-worth - we all want to feel we're good and worthwhile people. We can do this individually or by hitching ourselves to a worthy cause. Either way we need to be able to view ourselves in a positive light.
So, there you have it: the meaning of life in under 300 words.

Two words of warning. Firstly, it can be difficult to get all these things in the same place, although not impossible. We use family, work, hobbies and other things to fulfil our need for meaning. Secondly, a meaningful life is probably necessary to be happy, but it isn't sufficient.

What meaning do you give to your life?

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