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Yohan
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Registered: Jan 2004
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Originally posted by CMR
Why should I have to help someone who had a heart attack? Its their own damn fault! If they wanted someone to help them maybe they should have thought about choosing not to have a heart attack first.

because helping others should be a voluntary thing

once you force people people to do things, they become jaded and cynical about doing a good deed

Old Post Oct-13-2011 19:47  Canada
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this is why I don't leave my house...this way I'm not forced to help anyone.


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CMR
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quote:
Originally posted by Yohan
because helping others should be a voluntary thing

once you force people people to do things, they become jaded and cynical about doing a good deed


Someone who would refuse to help someone having a heart attack is already cynical and jaded, so I wouldn't worry about that.

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I think people are missing the main point about why Insite took the feds to court in the first place. The Cons wanted to shut Insite down (mainly for ideological reasons), so the challenge from Insite's perspective is about preventing arbitrary gov't prohibition. The double-whammy in this case came from the Province of BC who argued that they had jurisdiction over the day-to-day running of the health system. It's why the issue over whether addiction is a disease was central to this case. As the SCC ruled that addiction is a disease, it is therefore a healthcare to be managed by the province, rather than solely a justice issue in which the feds would have primary jurisdiction.

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The next logical step for these druggies is now to go to the courts with evidence demonstrating that procuring the drugs they do is equally as dangerous as injecting on their own used to be, and that the facilities should provide clean and safe drugs to them.'

Of course, since a lot of drug users don't actually have jobs, and come across their drug money through dangerous or illegal means, it will be decided that society has a duty not only to provide clean and safe drugs for addicts, but to provide them for free, to help cut down the crime rate and improve safety for addicts AND society at-large.


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Xavier Moriarty
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quote:
Originally posted by Yohan
because helping others should be a voluntary thing


warning..... fuck my life i wish i havent see this.



not helping others should be punishable by death, on the spot. my hearth literally broke, poor little soul.

wow


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quote:
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not helping others should be punishable by death, on the spot. my hearth literally broke, poor little soul.


Did Chinese laws keep strangers from helping toddler hit by Truck?

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After a Chinese toddler was run over by a car and left for dead by passersby in a Foshan market, some are suggesting China’s legal system may deter Good Samaritans from helping accident victims.

A video culled from surveillance footage and posted on YouTube and its Chinese equivalent, Youku, shows a van driver striking the 2-year-old girl, pausing with his vehicle straddling the girl’s torso, then driving forward, running her over a second time with his back wheel.

None of the 18 people who saw the 2-year-old’s bloody body stopped to help. The girl, named Yueyue, was then run over again by a light-duty truck.

In Ontario, among other places, a Good Samaritan Act protects from liability those who aren’t health care professionals who perform first aid on a victim at the scene of an accident. In many European countries, such as France and Germany, Good Samaritan laws impose on citizens a duty to rescue.

In China, neither type of law exists, says Pitman Potter, a law professor and Hong Kong Bank Chair in Asian Research at the University of British Columbia.

“That kind of system dissuades people from helping,” Potter said. “People have been either sued by the family of the injured person or held responsible by local authorities for the harm, and so getting wrapped up in that is something people want to avoid.”

In 2006, a Nanjing man who escorted an elderly woman to the hospital after she broke her leg was ordered to pay 40 per cent of the woman’s medical bill. The rationale: It was inconceivable that the man would go to such lengths to help the woman if he wasn’t somehow responsible for her injury.

“The reasoning of the courts is that if you hadn’t done it, why would you have taken them to the hospital? No normal person would have taken them,” said Donald Clarke, a law professor at George Washington University who maintains a blog on Chinese law.

Some Chinese sources also suggest the van’s driver left the girl to die because compensatory damages for death are often less than for a long-term injury. For the latter, damages might include medical expenses and income compensation for missed-work time over many years. Death involves a one-off payment.

“If she is dead, I may pay only about 20,000 yuan ($3,180),” the van driver told the China Daily before he surrendered to police. “But if she is injured, it may cost me hundreds of thousands of yuan.”

China introduced compulsory car insurance five years ago. But an article in Hong Kong’s South China Morning Post earlier this year said many drivers ignore the requirement.

According to Potter, personal liability insurance is also uncommon, meaning it would be financially prudent for a driver to flee an accident.

Some Chinese social media users have called the general indifference toward the girl a sign of a deteriorating moral society.

“This society is seriously ill,” commented one poster on the Chinese microblogging site Weibo. “Even cats and dogs shouldn’t be treated so heartlessly.”

Regardless, Yueyue’s mother told the China Daily she will not judge those who didn’t help her daughter, who remains on life support in a Guangzhou hospital.

“I bear no grudge and refuse to be disappointed by society,” she said.


From The Star.


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