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Originally posted by Vector A "Immoderate?" "Crazy?" "Intemperate?"

Fair enough, I'll pick the word "immoderate" because I reckon moderation is the one thing he could use to be as awesome a thinker as he was a writer.

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Originally posted by Vector A Also, far from the "center" of what? "Bang out of order" how?

The way I see it, if you draw a line ranging from immoderate religious conservatives to immoderate atheists, debate wise, with apathetic agnostics in the centre, he took his views too far down the atheist road, not unlike Dawkins and Harris... and it irked me because he didn't seem to acknowledge how rich and diverse (ir)religion is. The subtitle of "God is not Great", for example, claims religion poisons everything.

Really? Everything? I find it hard not to be stumped by his hasty generalisations.

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Originally posted by Redd I was just curious, nothing else. No offense or passive aggressiveness intended

Oh. But, nah, my views are not common in Brazil either, so I really don't think my location alters that much my way of thinking... I'm just eccentric

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From what little I know of Hitchens, he came across as someone who was crushed and incredibly burdened by the pain he saw in the world (hence the alcoholism), but his toxic attitude toward religion was akin to someone attempting to extinguish a house fire by turning a hose gushing petrol on it.

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I like your analogy. Though I believe he was well intended, that's precisely how I see it.

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"Well" is a rather worthless term, it's the intended part that's important. He was holding the hose, unapologetically, on the fires he thought were worth fueling. If we had more people like him... well shit, we'd all be burnt to a crisp. That's why he was exceptional.

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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On "Well" is a rather worthless term, it's the intended part that's important. He was holding the hose, unapologetically, on the fires he thought were worth fueling. If we had more people like him... well shit, we'd all be burnt to a crisp. That's why he was exceptional.

So I should replace ", but" with ";".

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Anyway, I left my views on religion (and why I reckon Hitchens was way off the mark) in this thread.

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Would love to visit his grave one day.
And shit on it, people like him make me wish that hell actually exists.

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Originally posted by OrangestO This isn't about physics, this is about waves.

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Originally posted by tazzjayz Would love to visit his grave one day. And shit on it, people like him make me wish that hell actually exists.

haha, what did he ever do to make you this mad?

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Originally posted by tazzjayz Would love to visit his grave one day. And shit on it, people like him make me wish that hell actually exists.

Still pissing people off from beyond that grave. That's why he's exceptional.

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Religious folk around the world are cheering because its one less obstacle between them and total ignorance.

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Originally posted by kamil Religious folk around the world are cheering because its one less obstacle between them and total ignorance.

Yes. Total ignorance. That's our goal. Always has been. Complete and total ignorance, like this comment, right here:

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Originally posted by kamil Religious folk around the world are cheering because its one less obstacle between them and total ignorance.

Now we don't have to shoulder the weight of bearing so much ignorance, ourselves. We can get help from atheists who are too stupid to comprehend Hitchens fully, while they bend over backwards to cite him in their stupidly formed arguments.


You are a fucking tool!

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