Chicago's weekend subway schedule is waaaaay slower, and even during the week none of that "next train in 3 mins" business

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Originally posted by Nobbie Q Some bus routes do, but subways don't, so it sucks. They should keep everything open on Saturday and Sunday mornings. We really are behind on our transit system.

No city has the ridership demand for overnight subway service with train frequencies of under 30 minutes.

The difference in cities that do run trains all night like New York, is that the train routes can't be replicated on the surface - they run through underwater tunnels, under parks, diagonally across streets, etc. In Toronto, all the subway lines are roughly analogous to major streets, and therefore can be replaced with bus service when ridership levels dip - which is preferable because you'll be waiting 10 minutes for a bus vs. 30 minutes for a train.

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Originally posted by kotsy Wishful thinking. Only 3 subway networks in North America are 24 hours and NYC's post midnight train frequency is just as bad, if not worse than our busses and streetcars. At least you can wait in a warm station in the winter vs. the curb.

dam man sorry you had to wait around, trains after the pm rush hour and during late night usually come every 20-25 min, on weekends tho it could be longer due to track work...nyc transit does alot of manitinece and repair over nights and weekends, but yet at 1-2am the trains are still pretty full so the ridership is lower than rush hour but alot of people are still in the system at that time (especially the weirdo's )

dam i hope for toronto something good comes out for mass transit, i only witnessed driving on the qew and i think it was the 401 or 405 at 7am, you guys got some f*cked up rush hour traffic ha ha ha

i seen somewhere that they are redeveloping the waterfront with parks and trying to build new houseing and condo's, so hopefully the demand for mass transit will grow with the new neigborhoods

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Originally posted by AY STAR dam man sorry you had to wait around, trains after the pm rush hour and during late night usually come every 20-25 min, on weekends tho it could be longer due to track work...nyc transit does alot of manitinece and repair over nights and weekends, but yet at 1-2am the trains are still pretty full so the ridership is lower than rush hour but alot of people are still in the system at that time (especially the weirdo's ) dam i hope for toronto something good comes out for mass transit, i only witnessed driving on the qew and i think it was the 401 or 405 at 7am, you guys got some f*cked up rush hour traffic ha ha ha i seen somewhere that they are redeveloping the waterfront with parks and trying to build new houseing and condo's, so hopefully the demand for mass transit will grow with the new neigborhoods

two seasons here, winter and construction lol

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If surrounding cities had some balls to develop themselves as a real metropolis (maybe excluding mississauga), then our gridlock or traffic issues wouldn't be AS bad.

Everyone within a 100km comes into Toronto to work.


Just wait in 3 years... 3 years, we'll have traffic problems going BOTH WAYS.

Hmm yeah I guess it doesn't make sense to have the subways open 24/7 on weekends but I dunno, I love how they're so fast.

I wish the GO trains at least had a few trains running in the middle of the night (the drunk express ahahah), as well as the surrounding cities having a few buses running in the middle of the night on weekends also. A lot of people come from the surrounding cities to party in T dot.

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Originally posted by AY STAR i seen somewhere that they are redeveloping the waterfront with parks and trying to build new houseing and condo's, so hopefully the demand for mass transit will grow with the new neigborhoods

sad part is, the development is supposed to be transit oriented. however, there is no mention of transit there in the new plans.

so whats probably going to happen is that bus routes get extended and become even more overcrowded.

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I moved out of downtown and live back up north. My commute is from my bed to my den. When I need something, parking is plentiful and free. Couldnt be happier.

I avoid Toronto like the plague unless I am going out at night once in awhile (when there isnt much traffic)

Bring us more subways and trains (a real network) and maybe i will consider coming back downtown during waking hours sometime in the next decade

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Originally posted by smuncky however, there is no mention of transit there in the new plans.

Wrong.

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my apologies, i wasn't clear enough in my orignal statement.

your image from 5 years ago proves my point that there is no thought about east bayfront in the new plans. if anything, it is no better than a fantasy map. last i heard about anything happening down on the shore east of yonge, was a year ago.

considering how fast this area is going to be built up in the next few years, it is crutial to get proper transit infrastructure in before the complete build out rather than later. especially since the focal point for our pan am games is going to be happening there. how are people supposed to get there?

if we were serious about it, funding would be in place to pay for it at the same time as queens quay west is being rebuilt (which is happening now) along with union station.

and if we were REALLY serious about transit in that part of the city and the transit system as a whole, we'd make the DRL our top priority.

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