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raver31
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Registered: Jul 2001
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quote:
Originally posted by DJ Sinergy


Good trance is out there.. you just have to find it

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good trance = pole folder - planetary activity

Old Post Sep-11-2002 06:39  Lithuania
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Dj Ahter
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Registered: Jun 2002
Location: Istanbul,Turkey

Well, if you have asked that question 3 months ago...I may have answered:"About to die"...but now, I certainly know that it's not dying. A hell a lot of QUALIFIED music has being released lately....and is being released.

But I agree with the guys who say you location is very important. For expample im my country TRANCE IS DEAD...I know it !!! The reason is it's so hard to mix and my country doens't have really really qualified djs, or they may just be LAZY !!!


Moving to Holland is a very good idea but learing the language and all that stuff(job, school...ect) makes it sound more like a fantasy rather than an IDEA.

If trance dies, there are people like us, who will make it live again...I'm sure(I'm not talking about the cheezzy thing here)Trance gets boring with the cheezy stuff and this misleads the media and the other people who aren't into trance.


Also another guy said that he would like TRANCE to go underground....so I would. I also want to be different to other people:in fact I want to recognize my TRANCER friends as soon as I see them. It would be much easier to communicate , and we'll live in peace...ha ha ha...

Yeah it's another fact that dj's don't really play new stuff...but I seem to understand their problem: THEY DON'T EARN enough to buy new records...or they think:"if theses people say -->Trance sounds the same,it all again the chords and the same beats<---- WHY SHOULD I BUY NEW RECORDS....I can buy myself a new pair of shoes.....


Yeah...that's the thing about trance,all about feelings,I'm happy that trance is not dead....

Greetz
Dj Ahter


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Old Post Sep-11-2002 10:47  Turkey
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Dj Ahter
Supreme tranceaddict



Registered: Jun 2002
Location: Istanbul,Turkey

quote:
Originally posted by Dj Ahter
Well, if you have asked that question 3 months ago...I may have answered:"About to die"...but now, I certainly know that it's not dying. A hell a lot of QUALIFIED music has being released lately....and is being released.

But I agree with the guys who say you location is very important. For expample im my country TRANCE IS DEAD...I know it !!! The reason is it's so hard to mix and my country doens't have really really qualified djs, or they may just be LAZY !!!


Moving to Holland is a very good idea but learing the language and all that stuff(job, school...ect) makes it sound more like a fantasy rather than an IDEA.

If trance dies, there are people like us, who will make it live again...I'm sure(I'm not talking about the cheezzy thing here)Trance gets boring with the cheezy stuff and this misleads the media and the other people who aren't into trance.


Also another guy said that he would like TRANCE to go underground....so I would. I also want to be different to other people:in fact I want to recognize my TRANCER friends as soon as I see them. It would be much easier to communicate , and we'll live in peace...ha ha ha...

Yeah it's another fact that dj's don't really play new stuff...but I seem to understand their problem: THEY DON'T EARN enough to buy new records...or they think:"if theses people say -->Trance sounds the same,it all again the chords and the same beats<---- WHY SHOULD I BUY NEW RECORDS....I can buy myself a new pair of shoes.....


Yeah...that's the thing about trance,all about feelings,I'm happy that trance is not dead....

Greetz
Dj Ahter


So know that you are the one who is going to make it live

Greetz,
Dj Ahter


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Old Post Sep-11-2002 15:25  Turkey
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Swamper
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Registered: Jan 2000
Location: Toronto, Canada

Trance is very much alive.

The only thing I would agree on is that the calibre of tracks these days has gone down significantly due to there being a lack of motivation amongst some producers to be unique - some are still trying to hang on to the elements that made their past productions a success without realizing that the electronic landscape is no longer as it once was.

Lots of labels still sign tons of shitty "cookie-cutter" tracks that don't get any airtime - and then there are quality tracks that get no distribution and nobody gets a chance to hear only because they don't have the right connections.

People still have a desire to listen to quality trance - the problem is that compilations rarely ever do the job - and some of the ignorant 'veteran' electronic music listeners feel that when someone who is new to the scene picks up one of these and feels they know all about trance that they are somehow lessened in their 'musical' tastes and go on to say they prefer other genres in order to distance themselves from their 'newbie' friend(s). (mmmmmm.. what a run-on sentence)


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Old Post Sep-11-2002 16:18  Canada
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Durafei
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Registered: Oct 2000
Location: San Francisco, California

Trance is NOT dying !
Just wait and see who'll be at the top of "Top 100 DJs" later this year.

It will be Tiesto, Paul Van Dyk, Armin Van Buuren and Paul Oakenfold.
With at least 4 out of top 10 DJs being Trance DJs, how can you say that Trance is dying?


Or consider Ibiza - clubbing capital of the world. Thursdays at Amnesia headlined by Tiesto and PVD is one of the most famous club nights in Ibiza. "Judgement Sundays" at Eden with Judge and Ferry Corsten is also very popular.


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DjDeComp
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Registered: Jul 2002
Location: New Jersey, USA

trance dying, stop scaring me with this stuff... almost gave me a heart attack at the age of 18 lol


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Old Post Sep-12-2002 01:37  Poland
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Fast Turtle
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Registered: Nov 2001
Location: At The Party House HP: 9302

Trance isn't dying. It's just evolving.

DJ Nuclear

Old Post Sep-12-2002 02:24  United States
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Taz
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Registered: Mar 2002
Location: what's the difference

quote:
Approximately posted by Vesa
This question can be discussed from this and that angle and no-one is able to predict trends; musical possibilities of trance (as an art form outside of clubs); something about melodic producers and experiments that Rank 1 has been making together with DJ Misjah on Smash Trax, or the stuff that Huinink & Lammers were producing before they moved away from melodic trance.

You can also see the possibilities of trance when you look back at yadda yadda Magiks and then Armin's Boundaries Of Imagination. But after the trance boom, producers did this and that and the absolute possibilities of trance, which are almost endless. If there was a new trance boom with lots of effort from innovative new producers, trance would very likely develop much further than we can currently imagine.

Besides, there is no-one stopping trance producers from haggida-haggida blabidy-blah something as complex as this post.


But silly mockery of good posts aside (My brain is cooked and giddy from a depressingly stressful workday, so don't mind me), I'd love some full names of tracks that demonstrate your point about innovative trance producers and their revolutionary expreiments. It'd be great to check 'em out.

It's true, there's a lot of rehashing going on now, and that's always dangerous. In my own tracks I try to break rules here and there, which is hard to do without "diluting the potion" if you know what I mean. (click on the signature for an example...)

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Fush
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Registered: Sep 2002
Location: Sydney

no, it wont die it will simply evolve.....


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Lira
Ancient BassAddict



Registered: Nov 2001
Location: Brasilia, Brazil

quote:
Originally posted by djdawn

For me the biggest change came with the end of the "real" hardtrance (now called Rave) around '96/'97. Tunes weren't produced at 160+ bpm anymore (for whatever reason, I still don't understand).


Ah... those were good times... My first tunes were "rave" tunes...


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Old Post Sep-12-2002 05:21  Brazil
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Taz
Supreme tranceaddict



Registered: Mar 2002
Location: what's the difference

quote:
Originally posted by USMC_Greg
All I know is that I can't stand any non-trance electronic music.


And that's reason enough for trance not to die.

Old Post Sep-12-2002 19:56  Canada
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cheesenip
Supreme tranceaddict



Registered: Jan 2001
Location: NorCal / SoCal

i think the "elite" tranceaddicts would love to see trance go underground. They wouldn't have to complain about "CHEESE" or "commercial" trance anymore. It's better for you anyways hehe

Old Post Sep-13-2002 21:06  Japan
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