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saluyamo
Supreme tranceaddict
Registered: Jul 2007
Location: Newcastle, Australia
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| quote: | Originally posted by OrangestO
I like how you excluded "blacks" from your thread title, when they're the most discriminated minority of them all.
Racist! |
He works in the financial district.
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Sep-09-2012 03:49
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6meets9
tranceaddict in training
Registered: Dec 2011
Location: Toronto
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| quote: | Originally posted by Dykes_on_Jay
No. Put them on an island and have Jeff Probst host.
Instead of the flame being extinguished, it gets lit. |
I don't know you at all but what the hell kind of person uses Zyklon in their username? It speaks volumes of your character! Was this just a joke like most of your posts? A mere reflection of society and what one must never do to another in the future?
Anyways, moving on...
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Sep-09-2012 06:37
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Evolve140
Only Sidechaining a Bit
Registered: Mar 2005
Location: Denver
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I will address your question once sober.
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Sep-09-2012 10:39
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Bierheld
Supreme tranceaddict

Registered: Aug 2010
Location: Utrecht, Netherlands
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There are a lot social factors and human properties at work that lead to cultures clashing. Everyone has their own reasons for it, so if you present just one simplistic explanation you're going to offend a lot of people.
Still in general there's a few main factors that often lead to this phenomenon:
First of all, there's the western world and it's obsession with individual freedom. We like to think of ourselves as self made individuals, and are no longer aware of how much outside factors influence our identity;. How we look and act.
Our culture is only apparent when a conflicting factor appears. Now suddenly we see someone wearing something completely different, like a burka or niqaab, and automatically assume it has to do with indoctrination.
This is true to an extent, but the same applies to us. We have a certain idea of how someone should dress his or herself, a framework of what is acceptable, and it takes someone of high social stature to be able to break that and get away with it. Theirs is a different one. It does not compute.
Then there's how we socialize with each other. People that grow op in similar environments are subjected to the same influences and have an easier time getting along with each other.
What I've noticed a lot, being part of a minority myself, is that people often find it hard to feel comfortable with you. It's much harder for people to speak freely about a lot of things because they're afraid they might offend you, as a lot of our social interactions require one to be provocative without being offensive. It's how we get ourselves noticed. This effect hurts the bonding process, and can lead to conflict because they expect you to be tolerant without being so themselves.
If you're a socially capable guy this doesn't have to be a problem, but a lot of people are not like that. They have a certain expectation of how people are supposed to behave, and are angered by people that differ too radically. Everything relating to intolerance leads back to a lack of understanding each other.
This process causes segregation, which in term causes lower social-economic statuses for the minorities, which leads to radicalization, crime, fundamentalism, and only gets worse until it is counteracted by integration and eventually assimilation, a process that takes many generations.
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Sep-09-2012 18:33
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Trance-M
Since 1994 tranceaddict

Registered: Oct 2005
Location: Limburg, Netherlands
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| quote: | Originally posted by Bierheld
There are a lot social factors and human properties at work that lead to cultures clashing. Everyone has their own reasons for it, so if you present just one simplistic explanation you're going to offend a lot of people.
Still in general there's a few main factors that often lead to this phenomenon:
First of all, there's the western world and it's obsession with individual freedom. We like to think of ourselves as self made individuals, and are no longer aware of how much outside factors influence our identity;. How we look and act.
Our culture is only apparent when a conflicting factor appears. Now suddenly we see someone wearing something completely different, like a burka or niqaab, and automatically assume it has to do with indoctrination.
This is true to an extent, but the same applies to us. We have a certain idea of how someone should dress his or herself, a framework of what is acceptable, and it takes someone of high social stature to be able to break that and get away with it. Theirs is a different one. It does not compute.
Then there's how we socialize with each other. People that grow op in similar environments are subjected to the same influences and have an easier time getting along with each other.
What I've noticed a lot, being part of a minority myself, is that people often find it hard to feel comfortable with you. It's much harder for people to speak freely about a lot of things because they're afraid they might offend you, as a lot of our social interactions require one to be provocative without being offensive. It's how we get ourselves noticed. This effect hurts the bonding process, and can lead to conflict because they expect you to be tolerant without being so themselves.
If you're a socially capable guy this doesn't have to be a problem, but a lot of people are not like that. They have a certain expectation of how people are supposed to behave, and are angered by people that differ too radically. Everything relating to intolerance leads back to a lack of understanding each other.
This process causes segregation, which in term causes lower social-economic statuses for the minorities, which leads to radicalization, crime, fundamentalism, and only gets worse until it is counteracted by integration and eventually assimilation, a process that takes many generations. |
Beerhero, you should change your name writing that on a Sunday, not? 
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Sep-09-2012 19:35
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Bierheld
Supreme tranceaddict

Registered: Aug 2010
Location: Utrecht, Netherlands
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Sep-09-2012 19:44
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