^^^^^^^^^ No offence but what eveidence do u have to support the accusation that they are building and Atomic bomb? that is the same as bush telling the world that they have "evidence" they are producing weapons of mass destruction. To date, I have seen NO photos of mass destruction, no video footage of the making of "weapons of mass destruction". In other words, Bush has presented NO evidence to the world that Saddam is building weapons AT ALL. All I hear is "Iraq is building weapons of mass destruction". That seriously does not tell me jack shit. I have seen No physical evidence of this. That is just my peice. but seeing is believing.

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Although I agree that a nation's people should be informed with hard evidence against Iraq before launching an attack, could much of this info be classified? I mean, it's probably not in America's best interest to spill the beans on everything they know about what Saddam is doing. Just a thought. There was plenty of evidence against Bin Laden before Sept. 11 to incriminate him against various terrorist attacks (USS Cole bombing, previous WTC bombing, the embassy bombings in Africa etc..) and it was too late before he struck on Sept 11. America was damned for waiting too long and not adequetly protecting the American people. There is indisputable evidence that Saddam has used and is willing to use weapons of mass destruction, like the chemical weapons he used against the Kurds. Saddam is a Lunatic, completely out of control, and if he gets his hands on a nuclear weapon we're all fucked. Now America wants to take pre-emptive action against this very real threat and they have their hands tied behind their back, they're damned if they do. I remember hearing a good analogy: "if the war on terrorism is to be a success, we can't go around swatting the mosquitos (i.e.individual terrorists and their cells) we need to drain the swamps (i.e. the despots and rogue states like Iraq who harbour the terrorists, weapons, and other means of destruction). People might disagree, but that just makes a lot of sense to me.

As an aside, did anyone hear much about that Mohammed Mansour Jabarrah guy? He went to my high school! He's a year younger than I, but it just goes to show you. Here's a guy who orchestrated plans to bomb embassies in Singapore, and he's from right here! Well, he immigrated from Iraq, but it just goes to show you how close this can hit home.

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Originally posted by fieroavian pearls of wisdom, to say the least...

uhmm... well I have mad props for Mandela, but when it comes to Economy he don't know jack about it! sorry to say but it's true! so even though I hate to admit it I think Bush is right to start a war with Iraq!

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Originally posted by E*Master ^^^^^^^^^ No offence but what eveidence do u have to support the accusation that they are building and Atomic bomb? that is the same as bush telling the world that they have "evidence" they are producing weapons of mass destruction. To date, I have seen NO photos of mass destruction, no video footage of the making of "weapons of mass destruction". In other words, Bush has presented NO evidence to the world that Saddam is building weapons AT ALL. All I hear is "Iraq is building weapons of mass destruction". That seriously does not tell me jack shit. I have seen No physical evidence of this. That is just my peice. but seeing is believing.

well dear E-Master I hate to disagree with you, but remember a little thing called the "H bomb" that Russia build first and blew up? Did the Americans have evidence of Russians building it? NO! But when it blew up they were shitting their pants!

LOL

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argh.... Iraq does not have the ability to build a nuke. If they were doing it, Israel would've bomb them like they did in the 80's because they were effectivly on the way of doing so.

The Saddam regime asked the US administration to come and inspect all they wanted, everywhere!, in return the US/UK has to promise that they would end their sanctions after the inspections. The US doesn't want the sanctions to end (ever?) so all they said about the offer was it was total BS because Iraq would never let them inspect?!!?!!

Fucking arrogant US, go there and inspect the god damn country and if Iraq refuses to let themselves get inspected well THEN tell the whole world "You see Irak don't want us to inspect blablabla"...

the US could've killed Saddam in the gulf war but didn't, so they left him there for a future war...

Now look at Osama ben Laden, something tells me they know NOW where he's hiding but don't do shit... leaving him like a joker, so they have a pretext for a futur war...

total BS

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Originally posted by ahlamalek argh.... Iraq does not have the ability to build a nuke. If they were doing it, Israel would've bomb them like they did in the 80's because they were effectivly on the way of doing so. The Saddam regime asked the US administration to come and inspect all they wanted, everywhere!, in return the US/UK has to promise that they would end their sanctions after the inspections. The US doesn't want the sanctions to end (ever?) so all they said about the offer was it was total BS because Iraq would never let them inspect?!!?!! Fucking arrogant US, go there and inspect the god damn country and if Iraq refuses to let themselves get inspected well THEN tell the whole world "You see Irak don't want us to inspect blablabla"... the US could've killed Saddam in the gulf war but didn't, so they left him there for a future war... Now look at Osama ben Laden, something tells me they know NOW where he's hiding but don't do shit... leaving him like a joker, so they have a pretext for a futur war... total BS

couldnt have said it better

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Originally posted by trancearmada well dear E-Master I hate to disagree with you, but remember a little thing called the "H bomb" that Russia build first and blew up? Did the Americans have evidence of Russians building it? NO! But when it blew up they were shitting their pants! LOL

LOL yeah I remember that. but still, America is making some accusations. It's just that I like to be convinced with HARD Facts (like with eveything in my life, I don't believe everything ppl tell me). But thee is a 50/50 chance they might be building some heavy weapons. but then again I also think that the USA wants to have control of the oil fields in Iraq since (from what I can remember) was all started by the oil that iraq has. Dunno if that is tru tho

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having an extra oil reserve controlled by a puppet regime is always cool

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Originally posted by ahlamalek having an extra oil reserve controlled by a puppet regime is always cool

LOL

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The Saddam regime asked the US administration to come and inspect all they wanted, everywhere!, in return the US/UK has to promise that they would end their sanctions after the inspections. The US doesn't want the sanctions to end (ever?) so all they said about the offer was it was total BS because Iraq would never let them inspect?!!?!! Fucking arrogant US, go there and inspect the god damn country and if Iraq refuses to let themselves get inspected well THEN tell the whole world "You see Irak don't want us to inspect blablabla"...

as I said before...

and today:

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Annan said Iraq is ready to open immediate talks on the technicalities of the inspectors' return. Iraq's letter said it wanted "to complete the implementation of relevant Security Council resolutions and to remove any doubts that Iraq still possesses weapons of mass destruction." ... The U.S. administration quickly dismissed the offer, saying Iraq was only moving in order to avoid action by the Council. ...

the rest here: http://www.cbc.ca/stories/2002/09/16/iraq_UN020916

only time will tell how the US will turn this situation around so they can start bombing Iraq again.

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