I've heard the quality of the VW's that are sold in the US are pretty shit. Most people I know who have had them hated them and said things were always breaking.

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They're not as well built as the ones in Europe, that's true, but I've never heard anyone complain ridiculously about them, and I've known quite a few people with them.

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Yeah it sounds fine to teach her to drive a manual. But between that, the inclined roads, and potentially lots of traffic, it's still a second choice.

Current front runner: found a used 2010 Audi Q5 for $30k. I know maintenance isn't exactly cheap on ze German cars, but hoooo boy is it nice. Higher ground clearance and infinitely better stereo than the WRX, and besides, my days of being a hooligan on the roads are... mostly... over.

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69378 eymurrican dollars for the cheapest model in Norway.

edit: 50 thou for the one with the 110bhp TDI BMT engine.
But with a that small engine you'll use more gas forcing the car uphill, than what you save on having a smaller engine.

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Originally posted by Flyboy217 Yeah it sounds fine to teach her to drive a manual. But between that, the inclined roads, and potentially lots of traffic, it's still a second choice. Current front runner: found a used 2010 Audi Q5 for $30k. I know maintenance isn't exactly cheap on ze German cars, but hoooo boy is it nice. Higher ground clearance and infinitely better stereo than the WRX, and besides, my days of being a hooligan on the roads are... mostly... over.

They don't look stunning IMO, but some nice rims will make up for that.
From the inside there isn't much to complain about.
Sounds like a good deal to me, also they keep value (at least here they do).

Is it still not done in the US to drive a diesel in anything which is not a truck or has this changed in the past few years? I would think diesels are perfect for US because of the longer distances. Performance especially torque is very good with the modern engines. Also you don't need to visit the gas station that frequently.

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Originally posted by srussell0018 I've heard the quality of the VW's that are sold in the US are pretty shit. Most people I know who have had them hated them and said things were always breaking.

Why would that be? They're all built in Germany aren't they?



/nevermind - I just Googled it and see that some models are built in Mexico. That explains it.

Export cars are built to fit the tastes of the countries they go to.

Generally Americans like larger N/A engines. They care more about the amount of cylinders and displacement figures. Europeans prefer smaller turbocharged engines which are more expensive to produce but more efficient, since the gas prices are much higher here.

Also the suspension set-up tends to get softened up. Americans prefer comfort were Europeans prefer sporty handling. The roads are very different between the continents as well, with Europe having more twisty b-roads. Explains the difference in preferences.

Interiors are stripped as well, again Europeans like to spend more on luxuries. Americans seem more fussed about the exterior of their car then the interior.

All this shouldn't affect the actual built quality, but I think in general American made cars are more reliable. Much simpler in design which means there's less that can go wrong. Americans also tend to travel longer distances.

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Originally posted by Flyboy217 Yeah it sounds fine to teach her to drive a manual. But between that, the inclined roads, and potentially lots of traffic, it's still a second choice.

Well, when it snows and you have your automatic VW, don't complain here. I'll be one the guys having a ball, driving all over the city in a WRX.

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Originally posted by Lews Well, when it snows and you have your automatic VW, don't complain here. I'll be one the guys having a ball, driving all over the city in a WRX.

Assuming you mean the Q5, I think the sound system will make up for the woes

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Originally posted by Bierheld All this shouldn't affect the actual built quality, but I think in general American made cars are more reliable. Much simpler in design which means there's less that can go wrong. Americans also tend to travel longer distances.

Regarding reliability I think Toyota (Lexus,Scion) and then Honda is still way ahead of the rest.

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Until the Toyota's breaks fail and you drive into a wall.

Subaru's are more reliable than Toyotas and Hondas.

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The latest "what car?" list:

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1) Honda 2) Toyota 3) Lexus 4) Suzuki 5) Subaru 6) Hyundai 7) Mazda 8) Mitsubishi 9) Chevrolet 10) Nissan 11) KIA 12) Ford 13) Skoda 14) Citroën 15) Peugeot 16) Daewoo 17) Smart 18) Mini 19) Fiat 20) Seat 21) Volkwagen 22) Volvo 23) Porsche 24) Opel 25) BMW 26) Audi 27) Rover 28) Jaguar 29) Mercedes 30) MG 31) Saab 32) Chrysler 33) Renault 34) Jeep 35) Alfa Romeo 36) Land Rover 37) Range Rover

It's a euro list though so American made cars don't factor in much at all.

Also the brake failure was only on the prius which has a complicated energy recovery system connected to them.

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