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Originally posted by Kilixpree and anjuna is dead. all his producers produces only crap sometimes. all MatZo tracks sounds the same, is ridiculous lol

Lol, 80% of any genre of music sounds the same... I'd even go so far as to say 80% of any given genre is filled with throwaway trash.

It's up to each of us to find the kernels of musical greatness, and advocate them, and either find our own way to create something that evokes the same feelings the songs we love in others, or advertise and perform them so we can give others a chance to feel the same way we do when we hear it.

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Originally posted by RebeL9 You can eat my big 15 inch mamba you swollen pig.

it was inevitable something like this would happen because of the huge gap between "trance" and "trance" that has evolved

maybe it's time to call "our" trance something else, that would surely piss off all the "WHO CARES ABOUT WHAT ITS CALLED AS LONG AS ITS GOOD"-people. but yeah, the battle of the word trance is a lost cause.

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Originally posted by Dawnchaser Lol, 80% of any genre of music sounds the same... I'd even go so far as to say 80% of any given genre is filled with throwaway trash.

what? im saying about use the same construction, the same chords, the same riffs, the same kicks, and only change notes in the bassline and in the melody. like what andrew rayel do

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Originally posted by Dawnchaser Lol, 80% of any genre of music sounds the same... I'd even go so far as to say 80% of any given genre is filled with throwaway trash. It's up to each of us to find the kernels of musical greatness, and advocate them, and either find our own way to create something that evokes the same feelings the songs we love in others, or advertise and perform them so we can give others a chance to feel the same way we do when we hear it.

As you can see from the comments people think these sort of shitty tracks will make go mental in a festival. I am not a clubber so I can't really comment but surely these people tone deaf?

People want to party at a festival, they don't want to go on an emotional trance adventure letting the melodies run smoothly through their ears. Yes, that Copperfield tune will rock a festival crowd and that's fine.

I keep saying this to other people, stop paying strict attention to ASOT and other big shows and dig deep for music. In a way the amazing stuff is probably considered more underground since it's not big money big label big weekly radio show tunes of the week.

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Originally posted by bucky People want to party at a festival, they don't want to go on an emotional trance adventure letting the melodies run smoothly through their ears. Yes, that Copperfield tune will rock a festival crowd and that's fine. I keep saying this to other people, stop paying strict attention to ASOT and other big shows and dig deep for music. In a way the amazing stuff is probably considered more underground since it's not big money big label big weekly radio show tunes of the week.

Yeah but those big money grabbing dudes have a bad influence on future producers and listeners because you'll find less and less people being influenced to produce underground music due to the lack of support from the big djs. A lot of producers and listeners were influenced by a lot of stuff from the 90's. A lot of kids these days are influenced by a lot of bad soulless tripe that gets flooded into the scene no matter what genre it is. Those underground producers are struggling due to lack of funds they receive its not a bed of roses for them like it is for the commercial producers.

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Good points. Didn't think of it that way.

These classification wars always amuse me. You have closed minded, elitist types that will argue all day long on this song is that, and that song is this. Some people call what I write psy, some trance, and many call it crossover. I've heard it all. If the song is good, that's all that matters. If you ask 10 people to classify a song, chances are you'll get 10 different answers, so why bother getting into all that mess in the first place. Who gives a flying fuck if someone says a song is trance, or someone else calls it psy.

The other day, someone blasted me in a comment on Facebook regarding a remix I just did of a Sean Tyas track, saying I was not a "true psy artist," and that I never would be. I was actually quite happy to read this because I never want to be labeled or classified as a trance artist, a psy artist, a whatever the fuck artist. I'm just a guy that writes music. I also hate labels that try to force me to adhere to one side of the camp with my music, something that has been done to me more times than I care to remember, and which is the reason I no longer deal with certain labels. Fuck classification, and fuck rules, because when making music, there are no rules. Focus on the music, write what you feel, write what you love, and don't get so hung up on all the little stuff.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. We've heard the "fuck classifications, follow your heart!" rallying cry a million times before. Back here in the real world, genres and classifications are an essential part of finding music you enjoy. The problem is simply that the word "trance" is (rightly, these days) taken as referring to something fucking awful, a niche sound for the emotionally immature and artistically crass. The good side of the music has no name of its own, and is thus damned by association. People can't find it, people can't discover it, people won't give it a chance. This needs to change.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J Yeah, yeah, yeah. We've heard the "fuck classifications, follow your heart!" rallying cry a million times before. Back here in the real world, genres and classifications are an essential part of finding music you enjoy. The problem is simply that the word "trance" is (rightly, these days) taken as referring to something fucking awful, a niche sound for the emotionally immature and artistically crass. The good side of the music has no name of its own, and is thus damned by association. People can't find it, people can't discover it, people won't give it a chance. This needs to change.

Exactly! I am friends with a lot of random 18-23 year olds, i basically work as a scientist at a university so hence interact with undergraduates, who are into electronic music but say trance sucks. I hand them compilations of banging 90s trance and label it as techno and they come back asking for more of that "bad ass techno" you should see the look on their faces when i tell them they just got handed a bunch of trance tracks from the 90s. The real issue is that there isnt a source of reviews and discussions telling people about good trance records. RA will tell people about underground techno and house, and they rightfully ignore swedish house mafia house etc but there simply isnt anyone out there saying armin and above and beyond are crap and J00F is good etc.

That being said i see trance making a comeback through techno. It really at its core is a subgenre of techno. If you go back and read old articles from the early trance days, it basically becomes clear how much the original artists thought they were making a certain kind of techno. Sooner or later techno artists are going to go back and rediscover the beauty of a track at 130 or greater bpm with some melodic synths and some arpeggios. its the nature of the beast. It sounds crazy but i think we need to just call the trance that is good, not trance, but something like emotional techno or progressive techno. Its at this point all about marketing.

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