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| quote: | Originally posted by Psyshell
I knew you'd held a grudge against me ever since that full on mix and hence why along with certain personal atacks it was the reason I originally put "no ziptnf" in the OP of the other thread. I didn't want that sortof drama. If you don't want me commenting on your mixes then fine. There's no point being like "well if you say mine suck then yours suck too", that's just pointless. I'd instead argue that we have quite different taste. You choose extremely weak breakbeat full on tracks that I find boring and annoying and you feel the same way about my taste in darkpsy. Different tastes. Who cares! |
Firstly, I only commented on your full-on mix when you came into one of mine guns blazing and complaining that it wasn't very good and "not to your taste". I had already heard yours and it was terrible. The fact that my mixes are downloaded more by a factor of 10 sorta trumps your idea that I'm mixing "extremely weak, boring annoying" music. I think your ear is broken. Especially if you found my latest offering (Fractal Geometry) weak or boring. I can guarantee you that beyond the artists themselves, nobody is playing psytrance that has that much energy.
| quote: | | My other point was, maybe we just have different taste in music? If you listen to all 9 tracks singley and don't enjoy a single one, don't even bother posting feedback more detailed than "well, I don't like it". It's just pointless. |
Except I didn't, you fucking dolt. I told you I liked tracks 3 and 8, but your fatal flaw in this mix was your arrangement, most of your selections, and mixing.
| quote: | | Also, full on is different to mix to darkpsy due to what I'm going for. I can't imagine doing a mix transition in full on where cutting mids would be preferable to cutting highs ever. With darkpsy (depending on the kind of darkpsy as well, e.g. horror dark, forest dark, psycore, russian style, israeli style) in certain circumstances like the tracks included in the mix I do believe it is preferable. That was my point and main quibble with ziptnf in terms of mechanical things djing wise. I simply thing that darkpsy is mixed slightly differently to full on. |
That's not the point either, and you are blissfully ignoring the point of my original review. I told you that your problems were in phrasing, not in "cutting middle frequencies" or whatever nonsense you are talking about. Where did I EVER fucking say that? You are literally making shit up just to add to your wall of text.
| quote: | | Ultimately proceeding from there and saying "well you've never really done a darkpsy mix of this particular style" is IMO a valid comment. "I've heard magdansky's" is not really a proper reply. That's not first hand experience. If zipntf wants to do a darkpsy mix of a similar style to this and does it way better in terms of track selection and transitions. I'd love that, it'd give me something to listen to and it'd also show me a lot in terms of how that style is done. |
I bet you money right now that if I made a "forest psy" mix you'd come into the thread complaining about how it's not "foresty enough" and how you don't "feel the elves fondling your balls like Goa Gil can". I've already made TWO darkpsy mixes. One is twilight in the first half, darkpsy in the second. You can go look for them in my set archive.
| quote: | | You misunderstand the point of what I was saying. When the thread devolves into everyone winging about how shit darkpsy is and ziptnf winging about my mix for random reasons because he's been bitter since my attempt at full on, then sorry to say but that's not a very productive thread. Perhaps instead I should be write "If you can't name 2 darkpsy artists you enjoy" then make some vaguely sensible post and or just don't just winge about darkpsy + "maybe next time you'll make a mix of a genre I'll enjoy" constantly. Seems so obvious that it should've even need to be stated to me. Regardless, I can just ignore stupid shit like whatever it was bierheld posted in the other thread and just not respond, which is what I probably will do in the future if I actually show some semblence of self control. |
You are so delusional and ridiculous, I honestly don't know what fucking planet you live on.
| quote: | | Also, saying that someone who hardly ever mixes darkpsy doesn't understand how to mix it is a legit comment. Especially since what I essentially said is this: It's darkpsy, it doesn't need have as steady a flow as full on. |
Did you seriously just say that I don't understand how to mix darkpsy? What the fuck is wrong with you? You've LISTENED to Yin's Reign! Even my other darkpsy mix (Yin's Revenge) had two trainwrecks in which I discussed briefly how difficult it can be to mix darkpsy and tracks with triple-kicks in an introduction phrase.
And yes, psytrance mixes SHOULD have a steady flow. All subgenres. That's because psytrance isn't really played at clobs where people go out and fist-pump for one track and then go to the bar on the next track. Psytrance should be reserved for festivals and grimey basements or warehouses where nobody gives a shit about selling liquor, they just want awesome music.
After listening to my darkpsy mix, you gave a rather nice review. Even though you said it's top 3, I find it noticeably absent when you mention mixes you enjoy.
| quote: | Originally posted by Darkarbiter
Suprisingly our taste in darkpsy is a lot closer than in full on. An actually good darkpsy mix, I think this is one of the two I've downloaded (along with cybernetika's warpcore 3) out of like 7. |
Why do you think I've only done two darkpsy mixes, Darkarbiter? Why do you think that I've NEVER done a forest psy mix? Do you think it's because forest psy is a flabby version of an otherwise dark and scary genre that is saturated with thousands of tracks that all sound the same? Seriously, 95% of all darkpsy is mindless warping, and for you to be so valiantly defending a less-interesting version of it makes me wonder why you put so much faith in this music? I'll be the first person to admit that psytrance isn't for everyone, and if someone is more of a house/techno guy and doesn't enjoy it, I don't mind and thank them for listening and send them on their way. You berate and belittle your listeners to the point where any criticism of the music itself so brutally offends you, so you lash out and write giant walls of text to prove your point.
I almost feel like making an off-release mix called "Elves Are Faggots" that is forest/darkpsy just to prove that you can make a better mix by focusing on a direction, arranging and mixing properly, and only choosing awesome tracks can beat a half-assed attempt any time.
Go listen to Magadansky's mix again. He keeps the energy constant, which works too. And stop being a knob.
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