I guess he wasn't butthurt like I said, huh?

Oh wait, totally butthurt since he deleted the damn thread.

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You can defend them all you want, in fact I admire you for doing so, but don't you find it a little suspect that whenever these characters change their style and sound - it's always a "coincidence" they select whatever sound happens to be "popular" that month? - John Askew

A lot of artists today are just victims, not having control, and they're not free. And that's pathetic. If you start being dependent on money, then money has to reach a point to fit your expenses. - Thomas Bangalter

That's not the point of this thread.

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Originally posted by maddhatterradio What I find crazy is the event still isn't sold out.

What's so crazy about that? Not only is dance music still not as big in the US as it is in Europe, but it's even significantly less popular in Atlanta than it is in, say, Miami/LA/NYC. Atlanta also isn't too touristy of a city, so people usually don't think of it as a spot they'd like to go on vacation.

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Originally posted by maddhatterradio I live in Atlanta, so this event is in my backyard so you can imagine my excitement. I however had never taken the leap of faith to purchase tickets to something without a lineup before. I know this is a trend now, but it's just not a practice I have ever participated in until this event launched in my hometown. I based my decision on the world wide craze that is Tomorrow Land, and hope I'm not let down. There needs to be a techno stage, preferably one hosted by Carl Cox. I cannot handle three days of trouse and trap. My fingers are crossed for a diverse lineup like Belguim, otherwise my tickets are being sold. What I find crazy is the event still isn't sold out. The world wide launch was an utter failure. Plenty of tickets still out there for sale on their website.

One issue could be the saturation of festivals. I mean look at how many festivals are going on in the next few months in the US alone:

EDC NY (May 17th and 18th), EDC Chicago (May 24th, 25th, and 26th), EDC Las Vegas (June 21st, 22nd, and 23rd), Wavefront Music Festival (July 5th 6th, and 7th), EZOO (Aug. 30th, 31st, and Sept. 1), TommorowWorld (Sept. 27th, 28th, and 29th), and EDC Orlando (Nov. 8th and 9th). Not to mention some of the smaller ones spattered here and there.

Another issue in my opinion is that they set the age limit as 21+ and yet they are booking these awful dj's to play there. I know there are some 21+ who enjoy that music but you are really cutting out your key demographic by not allowing at least 18+ to come to the festival. I mean you are booking the pop edm artists and not allowing the youngins to come? Not smart at all.

The age group they have closed in on (21+) is not the demographic that is willing to spend that much money on a ticket for trap, trouse, electro garbage. I was hyped up for this event but its been weeks and so far Jamie Jones is the only name on the list that doesn't make me puke.

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You can defend them all you want, in fact I admire you for doing so, but don't you find it a little suspect that whenever these characters change their style and sound - it's always a "coincidence" they select whatever sound happens to be "popular" that month? - John Askew

A lot of artists today are just victims, not having control, and they're not free. And that's pathetic. If you start being dependent on money, then money has to reach a point to fit your expenses. - Thomas Bangalter

I think the 21+ with a lineup targeted at the 18-21 age group is a definite mismatch. I'm sure festival saturation has a lot to do with it too, the US is flooded with generic shitfests this summer, all with the same electro/dub/trap lineups, and so far this is nothing different.

Honestly, Live Nation has played every single card wrong through to this point. Maybe we'll see it move else where next year, something like upstate New York if they want to keep the same geography, because ATL was a terrible choice from day one. Then maybe drop it to 18+. Still a lot of time to turn it around, but I don't have much faith in Live Nation.

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Originally posted by Pantone199c Another issue in my opinion is that they set the age limit as 21+ and yet they are booking these awful dj's to play there. I know there are some 21+ who enjoy that music but you are really cutting out your key demographic by not allowing at least 18+ to come to the festival. I mean you are booking the pop edm artists and not allowing the youngins to come? Not smart at all.

This is the big issue at hand. Obviously they would have wanted it 18up or even all ages. I have a feeling either liquor sales or liquor being allowed in the camp grounds had something to do with this. But either way 21 up and the lineup they announced is a horrible idea.

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Originally posted by Dream Beamz This is the big issue at hand. Obviously they would have wanted it 18up or even all ages. I have a feeling either liquor sales or liquor being allowed in the camp grounds had something to do with this. But either way 21 up and the lineup they announced is a horrible idea.

I agree 100% with this. I will say if TW wants to pull this potential debacle out, they are going to need to cater to the 21+ crowd. I know many people that are waiting for the lineup before committing to buying tickets.

Like I've said I'm sure I'm coming off as a hater but if they had just released some underground along with the cheese I probably would have bought my tickets right off the bat. I've made other plans now so I won't be going to this either way. I'm just ticked that they decided to only release the pop artists so far.

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You can defend them all you want, in fact I admire you for doing so, but don't you find it a little suspect that whenever these characters change their style and sound - it's always a "coincidence" they select whatever sound happens to be "popular" that month? - John Askew

A lot of artists today are just victims, not having control, and they're not free. And that's pathetic. If you start being dependent on money, then money has to reach a point to fit your expenses. - Thomas Bangalter

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Originally posted by Pantone199c Like I've said I'm sure I'm coming off as a hater but if they had just released some underground along with the cheese I probably would have bought my tickets right off the bat. I've made other plans now so I won't be going to this either way. I'm just ticked that they decided to only release the pop artists so far.

youre not coming off as a hater there, its correct. a lot of people have their doubts with TomorrowWorld now.

sending you a PM regarding the drama in the last thread.

TW just sent me an email explaining

"Are you ready to write history at our second home? Join new Friends from over 65 countries who've secured their entry to TomorrowWorld! Following the incredible first wave of artists, prepare yourself for the second wave in June when more than 100 new artists and stages will be unveiled."


June? Really? This is going to hurt them in a serious way. Not everyone has the ability to travel to every festival, they have to choose, and plan accordingly.

This stall technique will hurt thier attendance & have EDC, and EZ have greater success.

I think it's time to bail on my tickets.

That's actually a fairly common practice among most major festivals.

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Originally posted by idoru That's actually a fairly common practice among most major festivals.

It's only common because people are lemmings, and we allow this to happen as consumers.

I feel SHAME for buying into this hype machine. Shame on me, I know better.