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Originally posted by Joss Weatherby Prosecution botched this shit so badly. Seems to be a North Florida deal with their DAs though. Casey Anthony, this, pathetic attempts to extract more than they should be able to get from the justice system. Quit trying to make names for yourselves you fucking idiots and prosecute a decent case. I hope this is not indicative of the new wave of young attorneys entering public and what their goals are. You are public servants, do it wisely, don't waste tax payer money trying to use this is a stage to land a sweet private gig, it won't work.

This doesn't make any sense. They could have found him guilty for either Murder 2 or manslaughter, so what would you have preferred they charge him with? Discharging a firearm in public?

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Originally posted by srussell0018 This doesn't make any sense. They could have found him guilty for either Murder 2 or manslaughter, so what would you have preferred they charge him with? Discharging a firearm in public?

The prosecution pushed Murder 2, the judge had to remind the jury they could do manslaughter. Never trust a jury to interpret a lower charge correctly.

When I heard the judge reminded the jury on what they could convict, specifically on the fact that they could do manslaughter I didn't have to hear anything else from the prosecution to know they fucking botched it.

The prosecutor pushed murder 2 hard, way too hard, and they didn't want to do manslaughter (and its really hard to prosecute manslaughter OR murder 2, not like murder 1/murder 2 where the definitions are closer). A smart prosecutor would have charged him solely with voluntary manslaughter and ran with that because its an easy case to prove, there was malicious intent (him getting out of the car to pursue Martin) and it was obvious that there was a fight, and that no matter who started the actual brawl, that Zimmerman had put himself willingly into a situation where he knew a fight could occur. He wasn't out to kill Martin, but he was out to engage Martin in some sort of altercation that was outside the purview of his entirely non-existent authority.

You wouldn't have to try and pull all this fancy bullshit and call idiot witnesses who are going to fuck your case if you are just trying to prove that he put himself in a situation where he possibly would be in a fight, and when a fight did occur he killed him.

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Originally posted by Joss Weatherby The prosecution pushed Murder 2, the judge had to remind the jury they could do manslaughter. Never trust a jury to interpret a lower charge correctly. When I heard the judge reminded the jury on what they could convict, specifically on the fact that they could do manslaughter I didn't have to hear anything else from the prosecution to know they fucking botched it. The prosecutor pushed murder 2 hard, way too hard, and they didn't want to do manslaughter (and its really hard to prosecute manslaughter OR murder 2, not like murder 1/murder 2 where the definitions are closer). A smart prosecutor would have charged him solely with voluntary manslaughter and ran with that because its an easy case to prove, there was malicious intent (him getting out of the car to pursue Martin) and it was obvious that there was a fight, and that no matter who started the actual brawl, that Zimmerman had put himself willingly into a situation where he knew a fight could occur. He wasn't out to kill Martin, but he was out to engage Martin in some sort of altercation that was outside the purview of his entirely non-existent authority. You wouldn't have to try and pull all this fancy bullshit and call idiot witnesses who are going to fuck your case if you are just trying to prove that he put himself in a situation where he possibly would be in a fight, and when a fight did occur he killed him.

following someone is malicious intent? wow

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Originally posted by crazituna following someone is malicious intent? wow

Getting out of your car after declaring that you see the person, and the person sees you and you are suspecting them of a crime (as demonstrated in the 911 call Zimmerman made) is. Yes. Especially when the person is running away, which Zimmerman said Martin was. Zimmerman got out of his car to pursue Martin. That is Zimmerman's own admission.

this is like OJ but in reverse. The world is now in balance and I guess there is no better time to express my love for russel. I desire you . forget that bitch and lets move to San Francisco.

kiss kiss.

Florida is just fucked tho. Its just really hard to see two sides to this. I really don't see how this is a hard decision in any way. Sentencing perhaps, but in terms of someone getting off, that is just fucked.

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Originally posted by Joss Weatherby Getting out of your car after declaring that you see the person, and the person sees you and you are suspecting them of a crime (as demonstrated in the 911 call Zimmerman made) is. Yes. Especially when the person is running away, which Zimmerman said Martin was. Zimmerman got out of his car to pursue Martin. That is Zimmerman's own admission.

again you haven't proven malicious intent. last time i checked it was not a crime to follow someone. now bashing someone face in is a different story oh you forgot about that.

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Originally posted by Looney4Clooney this is like OJ but in reverse. The world is now in balance and I guess there is no better time to express my love for russel. I desire you . forget that bitch and lets move to San Francisco. kiss kiss. Florida is just fucked tho. Its just really hard to see two sides to this. I really don't see how this is a hard decision in any way. Sentencing perhaps, but in terms of someone getting off, that is just fucked.

i loved kardashians twitter post.

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Originally posted by Looney4Clooney this is like OJ but in reverse.

its nothing like OJ in revers....

both case, the prosecution fucked up majorly! and the prosecution both called to witnesses who blew the case for em. People forget that Furman committed perjury on the stand in the OJ case. Where as Trayvon's gf basically put a put on a strap-on and fucked the prosecution.

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Originally posted by crazituna again you haven't proven malicious intent. last time i checked it was not a crime to follow someone. now bashing someone face in is a different story oh you forgot about that.

The 911 dispatched asked: Are you following him.

Zimmerman said he was.

What was his intent other than to engage Martin in some sort of altercation. Zimmerman had no authority, he wasn't a cop.

and when he was asked to stop following he said ok. wasn't it trayvon who turned around to look for zimmerman?

and his intent was to make sure anther person in his complex was not robbed. or you missed the rash of burgleries and robberies in the complex.

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Originally posted by Joss Weatherby The 911 dispatched asked: Are you following him. Zimmerman said he was. What was his intent other than to engage Martin in some sort of altercation. Zimmerman had no authority, he wasn't a cop.

How do you know he didn't say "Hey, this is a gated community, what are you doing here?" and then Trayvon started beating him?

And didn't the girl repeatedly tell him to try to get away, which he obviously didn't?

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