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Originally posted by OrangestO Iboga.

You're about as entertaining as IGK. You're a pathetic war vet who thinks he's a writer who came back from the war and joined TA (at age 30 or so?) in hopes of finding a friend, because you can't find one IRL. Am I right so far?

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War vet? Lol.

Iboga, son. Iboga.

Sounds like your life is like a box of chocolates

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Originally posted by AlphaStarred after my trip back from Mexico

W_ashley, is that you?

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Originally posted by Lira Oh, I see. In that case, I've got a genuine question: Quite often, music enthusiasts (here, at least), consider electronic music to be garbage because "it's just pressing buttons". And, as much as I love, say, Liam Howlett, I don't think I've ever seen him play Bach on the piano (for the sake of the argument, let's suppose he can't). Would it be fair of a classical music fans to judge The Prodigy according to their own 19th century standards? They could easily dismiss electronic dance music as "simple unchallenging" music. What if we're misjudging Pokemon here and saying it fails to reach a standard it never strived for in the first place? And I say "we" because I tend to be quite dismissive of it myself and most "nerd culture". But, that's possibly because I outnerded the nerds at my school and got into computer music long before I could feign any interest in computer games

I think you're missing the point somewhat. It's not really about aesthetics, highbrow vs lowbrow or even videogame design. I'm talking about people who deliberately wallow in all this shit specifically because it's unthreatening, comforting throwback shit from their childhood. And believe me, this is a common demographic. It's a pervasive mindset.

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Originally posted by OrangestO Iboga, son. Iboga.

I'll be ordering some in a few days. Hopefully it'll help.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J I think you're missing the point somewhat. It's not really about aesthetics, highbrow vs lowbrow or even videogame design. I'm talking about people who deliberately wallow in all this shit specifically because it's unthreatening, comforting throwback shit from their childhood. And believe me, this is a common demographic. It's a pervasive mindset.

My analogy is to blame: I did get you, but I see I couldn't make my point as clear as I hoped.

I know it's common - I've got dozens of students who seem trapped in their childhoods, so computer games and cartoons become a significant part of their lives. Worse yet, the Japanese government does what it can to keep these students because they help the country project its soft power here, so I've got even colleagues who fit your description. The local embassy once sent to Japan a student of ours who had a Saint Seiya themed wedding, so they definitely want these people (and I can't say I'm surprised by MSZ's post... I've seen it happen right here).

Anyway, my point is: I understand why you think the way you do. But, because I'm such an annoying bleeding-hear Millian, I can't help wondering if there isn't an upside to their childish interests and apparently sheltered lives. EDM has helped me come up with loads of ideas in linguistics even though people have criticised me for listening to "non-music" in the past, hence my analogy, so maybe Pokémon saga will be useful for something other than train cock-fighting coaches and we're just blind to it.

(Am I still missing the point or was it just my bad analogy?)

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Originally posted by AlphaStarred I spoke of something similar to this many years ago on this forum, after my trip back from Mexico.

Could you post a link to it? I think I even said something in your thread, but I could be wrong.

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Originally posted by Lira Could you post a link to it? I think I even said something in your thread, but I could be wrong.

Can't believe I actually found it: http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...=2#.Vhm1hvlViko

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Originally posted by AlphaStarred Can't believe I actually found it: http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...=2#.Vhm1hvlViko

Haha, it quickly got derailed, I only joined the discussion when it was no longer about living a simple life

But, yeah, I get you. Whenever I get bitter about university politics, I remember the time I visited a small town up north here in Brazil. People barely had a library, let alone access to the internet.

So whenever I think that I work in a public university and those people are paying my salary with taxes, I ask myself if I'm putting their money to good use.

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this thread is pathetic, Lira fighting the good fight.

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Pokemon was big for me growing up as was a lot of other stuff from Japan specifically, all the access I had to anything contemporary built by the far east was those games and shows. From a cultural perspective, if I really think about it, other than maybe folk tales that may have come from there that I had heard as a kid and general history from the east that I had access to at school, any type of philosophy and culture from the east came from anime/manga and video games. I'd still play my copy of Saphire if I knew where my sp charger is.

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