Registered: Jun 2005
Location: Can this be my goal??!
No one wants to talk about PQM - You Are Sleeping
May-05-2020 10:04
SYSTEM-J
IDKFA.
Registered: Sep 2003
Location: Manchester
quote:
Originally posted by Paradox Lost
It's also the latter that reminds me why I will never become a musician of any sort, as I would have never in a million years thought to sample any of this stuff in the way it was sampled. I'm always just completely taken by the artist's imaginativeness and ingenuity when they talk about it in an interview, always saying something like "oh, yeah, that instrumental was actually lifted from an early Prince record, which I distorted through a guitar pedal and recorded to cassette to give it that denser feel." Like...why? What? What on earth made you want to sample that incredibly specific piece of music in that incredibly specific way? It's one thing to have a macro-idea for a track, but it's all those micro-ideas that really breathe life into it, and that are just beyond my creative process.
I'm sure this has been posted many times before (not least by me), but this Youtube clip of someone remaking Smack My Bitch Up using all the same samples was really the revelation for me in understanding just how radical and creative sampling actually is in electronic music. Like you, I can't even fathom the creative thought process that would lead a producer to take a snippet of guitar squall from a rock record and process the living fuck out of it to get a little throbbing noise in their breakdown.
Compared to this, throwing a sample of JFK or the Apollo 11 mission over a track is child's play.
Similarly, videos reconstructing the Daft Punk tracks 'High Life' (short example in the video below at 17:05) and 'Face To Face' blow my mind, although I can't find any that go into the depth of the Prodigy demonstration.
Face To Face reconstruction:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0iWl8n9wxlA
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May-05-2020 12:25
Silky Johnson
International Playa Hater
Registered: Nov 2003
Location:
quote:
Originally posted by Ted Promo
No one wants to talk about PQM - You Are Sleeping
You know he has ALS eh?
May-05-2020 12:38
Sykonee
Supreme EMCritic
Registered: Dec 2004
Location: Vancouver, Canada
quote:
Originally posted by Paradox Lost
For me, Ultimae was just those CD's at Tower Records with the intriguing but completely nondescript cover art that told you nothing about what to expect, certainly not enough to take the gamble on those exorbitant price tags.
You could find them in domestic stores??
Whoa...!
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May-05-2020 14:22
Trance-M
Since 1994 tranceaddict
Registered: Oct 2005
Location: Limburg, Netherlands
In 1985 this was no1 in the UK, I loved it although I couldn't understand the words as 11 year old.
Possibly the most successful dance track using samples?
It contains samples from the ABC-documentary "Vietnam Requiem".
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May-05-2020 17:54
Dykes_on_Jay
Ape me.
Registered: Aug 2012
Location: Shenzhen LBC
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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Since we all seem to be interpreting Matt's question to refer to spoken word samples (rather than, y'know, music), this one springs to mind.
Rather than rehash myself, I'll just copy and paste my own review over at Discogs.
I prefer the flip with the Billie Jean sample.
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May-05-2020 18:01
Paradox Lost
In This Twilight
Registered: Aug 2007
Location: San Francisco
quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
I'm sure this has been posted many times before (not least by me), but this Youtube clip of someone remaking Smack My Bitch Up using all the same samples was really the revelation for me in understanding just how radical and creative sampling actually is in electronic music. Like you, I can't even fathom the creative thought process that would lead a producer to take a snippet of guitar squall from a rock record and process the living fuck out of it to get a little throbbing noise in their breakdown.
Compared to this, throwing a sample of JFK or the Apollo 11 mission over a track is child's play.
And it's not as though this sampling is just fodder thrown in for flavor, it ties into the very identity of the record, without which so many wouldn't have been nearly as memorable. I just don't possess that same instinctive reaction micro pieces of music to pump the lifeblood into an otherwise decent central idea. I know there's a lot to be said for the value patience and practice in the development of a new skill, but I know myself well enough to know that I simply don't think the way they do, and so I'll never be able to make music the way they can.
quote:
Originally posted by Sykonee
You could find them in domestic stores??
Whoa...!
Since at least 2005, and back then, from what I recall, they were all priced around $25, which a lot to throw at a CD you couldn't sample. Looking back now, and without checking the secondary market, I get the feeling those would have appreciated way beyond their original asking price.
Since at least 2005, and back then, from what I recall, they were all priced around $25, which a lot to throw at a CD you couldn't sample. Looking back now, and without checking the secondary market, I get the feeling those would have appreciated way beyond their original asking price.
According to the Discogs Marketplace, seven of my Top 10 most expensive CDs (non Box-Set) are Ultimae releases.
Triple. Digits. Worth.
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May-06-2020 04:12
planetaryplayer
Surpeme traineanddict
Registered: Dec 2011
Location: Pine Tree Valley
quote:
Originally posted by Silky Johnson
You know he has ALS eh?
Only b/c he didn’t love himself and take care of his teeth
May-06-2020 05:17
Trance-M
Since 1994 tranceaddict
Registered: Oct 2005
Location: Limburg, Netherlands
Jim Morrison and The Doors - Black Polished Chrome sample in this one:
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May-06-2020 20:42
lacksesepsotygh
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Registered: Jan 2005
Location: Danderyds Psykhus, Stockholm