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KilldaDJ
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Registered: Sep 2001
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i define cheese as [but i like cheese ]
simple melody
not many layers of music, e.g like with hip hop [beat, bass, sound fx, rapping]
vocals - just cannot stand them, crap like lasgo and ian van dahl etc - dubs and unvocals i can live with
the 'monotone' sound like with flip n fill - take my breath away, u will see the difference compared with some of dumonde's stuff
mixed elements, e.g like with a trance track u have elements of everything like some breakbeat/dnb and the occasional rap etc

thats my verdict...
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oDrori
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Registered: Dec 2001
Location: Kibbutz Gaash, home of all the light in Holyland

quote:
Originally posted by kirbtastic
when delerium did silience, it appealed to a wide range of people, i didnt know anyone who didn t likle that song...i dont consider it cheese...its still a beautiful song...but then again maybe i might be cheese


Not cheese, COMMERCIAL . C-O-M-M-E-R-C-I-A-L.

Saying cheese just sound more degrading so no one says that about the almighty Silence (Tieso remix) but the fact is it got commercialised and playing it today on a party will lure your avrage spice girl and lasgo fan to the floor.


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mndeg
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Registered: Aug 2002
Location: IL, United States

quote:
Originally posted by Ferrari_7
everyone who thinks that Lange-Drifting Away is cheese needs to have his/her ears examined! "Cheese" is not objective, i even saw someone in the forums claiming flight 643 was cheese ffs!what about peran van dijk-good time? do u think it's cheese?i loved it first time i heard it!peace.


I have this song burned on a cd, I consider it cheese. I always think cheese when I hear this song, it's like SUPER ANTHEM.


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wow, trance n dance thinks all uplifting trance is cheese


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Registered: Apr 2001
Location: Mississauga

quote:
Originally posted by mndeg
wow, trance n dance thinks all uplifting trance is cheese


I think cheese is uplifting trance made by retarded people


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DJ-Lukeass
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Registered: Jan 2002
Location: Darlington,England

what would normaly make a tune cheesy would be the beat or the sound affects used in the tunes for example try listen to
''Dj aligator - The whistle song'' if u dare and listen to that pile of cheese it will scare you to death

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Sundevil
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Registered: Dec 2002
Location: Minnesota, USA

quote:
Originally posted by trance_n_dance
I find cheesy music to be happy music. Makes you feel happy and good about everything around you, maybe thats why people listen to it and why producers make it that way.


I just don't get this at all. Why would you listen to music that doesn't make you happy? Doesn't that kind of defest the purpose? I sure don't turn on some tunes so that I can feel shitty...


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quote:
Originally posted by Sundevil
I just don't get this at all. Why would you listen to music that doesn't make you happy? Doesn't that kind of defest the purpose? I sure don't turn on some tunes so that I can feel shitty...


I doubt that Marco V or Mauro Picotto makes you want to hug people or think about fuzzy bunny rabbits just like Marilyn Mansons music wouldn't.


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Registered: Sep 2001
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quote:
Originally posted by PointyDC
Like the others have said, people have different ideas of 'cheesy'...to me, cheesy is a track which is extremely predictable, has few layers and just overall has that sound to it that makes me cringe - especially soppy vocals


cheese, IMHO, is very bad vocals where sometimes you can predict the next word. cheese is a tune which makes me feel stupid, instead of throwing my hands up in the air. a cheesy tune makes me wanna cry, cringe, shrug, and cover my ears. sometimes a cheesy tune will have an overly long and emotionally stupid breakdown. sorta like jappop.

a combination of one or all of those will make me stay away from track. now, COMMERCIAL music is something different.


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DJMaytag
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Registered: Dec 2001
Location: back in Madison, WI... again!
Re: What makes a track "cheesy"?

quote:
Originally posted by Sundevil
Some of my fav tracks ATM that I am wondering about :
Lustral - Broken (Way out West Mix)
Aurora - Ordinary World (Above and Beyond Mix)
Lange f Skye - Drifting Away

Would these be "cheesy"?

I'd really appreciate if someone could help me get a better understanding of this idea. I tend to listen to what I like, I don't really care whether it's cheesy or not...


First off, Lustral and Lange = not cheesy (I dunno about the original mix of Drifting Away though, as the Sunset Dub and World Clique mixes were pretty tight.)

Secondly, don't worry about what others think are cheesy. Worry about what YOU like.

Thirdly, anything with a "Rave Organ Lead" is getting QUITE tired and formulaic, and one of the biggest proponents of that sound declared it dead recently. If you don't know what I'm talking about, refer to the breakdowns in Silverbath, Lost In A Dream [Push Trancendental Mix], Summer Calling [Airwave Club Mix], Sunspot [DCML Remix]. These are arguably the BEST examples of a tired sound...

Anything outside that is pretty subjective...


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starglider
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Registered: Aug 2001
Location: Montreal, Canada
Re: Re: What makes a track "cheesy"?

quote:
Originally posted by DJMaytag
Thirdly, anything with a "Rave Organ Lead" is getting QUITE tired and formulaic, and one of the biggest proponents of that sound declared it dead recently. If you don't know what I'm talking about, refer to the breakdowns in Silverbath, Lost In A Dream [Push Trancendental Mix], Summer Calling [Airwave Club Mix], Sunspot [DCML Remix]. These are arguably the BEST examples of a tired sound...


So basically any anthemic trance production by L-Vee or M.I.K.E.? You might find those who'd disagree...

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DJMaytag
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Re: Re: Re: What makes a track "cheesy"?

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Originally posted by starglider
So basically any anthemic trance production by L-Vee or M.I.K.E.? You might find those who'd disagree...


In a nutshell, yes. You'd be surprised to know that one the two you mentioned recently declared said sound to be "dead". I'd agree.


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