As far as I know, Blix rated Iraq's cooperation as 4/5.

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Originally posted by Az I read the article, and all I got from it was that Eric Shawn was trying to put words in Blix's mouth. Now Iraq is cooperating with what the UN, America and Britain etc.... have DEMANDED they do, and they're doing it without blocking access to anywhere the UN inspectors want to go. Admittedly they could probably aid the inspectors further, but for what? so the inspectors to report back, tell them they haven't got any weapons, and the Americans to bomb them anyway? and lets face it, thats whats going to happen......

That's what Iam taking about.Kiss my ass Izzy!

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Originally posted by TheDemon That's what Iam taking about.Kiss my ass Izzy!

Yes that's great dserves a warning as well if you ask me.
Demon, you have your opinions, would you mind if I post "Up yours" just because you post them?

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Originally posted by Az Now Iraq is cooperating with what the UN, America and Britain etc.... have DEMANDED they do, and they're doing it without blocking access to anywhere the UN inspectors want to go. Admittedly they could probably aid the inspectors further, but for what? so the inspectors to report back, tell them they haven't got any weapons, and the Americans to bomb them anyway? and lets face it, thats whats going to happen......

here is a transcript of Blix's full report to the UN on Jan 27th
http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/01/27/sp...blix/index.html

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Blix: "I'm obliged to note some recent disturbing incidents and harassment. " "Paragraph 9 of Resolution 1441 states that this cooperation shall be "active." It is not enough to open doors. Inspection is not a game of catch as catch can. " "Regrettably, the 12,000-page declaration, most of which is a reprint of earlier documents, does not seem to contain any new evidence that will eliminate the questions or reduce their number. " "Iraq has provided little evidence for this production and no convincing evidence for its destruction. " "What is clear is that they were illegally brought into Iraq; that is, Iraq or some company in Iraq circumvented the restrictions imposed by various resolutions. "

those are strong accusations, seems to me iraq is NOT cooperating fully

oh and btw in light of the US's new evidence as presented, we can cleary see how iraq is NOT cooperating

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Originally posted by TheDemon Kiss my ass Izzy

classy
i wouldnt give you the pleasure

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Americas new evidence....?

Just saw a fair amount of Colin Powells address to the UN, and it was far from convincing.
From the blatantly biased first page of the Powerpoint presentation ("Iraq, a trail of deceit" or something similar), to the extremely tenuous links with Al Qaeda, the maybes about them having Anthrax (they had it once, got rid of it, they may have kept some, and made 25,000 litres of it since....), and the explanation as to why the UN inspectors haven't found anything (They're moving extremely dangerous substances on the back of lorries around the country, without them being caught on satellite etc...).
As for the UN inspections, I can totally understand Iraqs anger at them, the UN inspectors are ferried around at Iraq's expense, nowhere is off limits, in the knowledge that these inspectors will report back with detailed information of military compounds + defence bunkers, and America and the British (and I'm ashamed) are going to bomb them whether they're guilty or not!

Meanwhile we actually KNOW North Korea are transporting enough Nuclear Rods to create at least 6 Nuclear weapons, and are posing a very real threat to the world.
now you tell me which is more the more important situation.....

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Originally posted by Az Americas new evidence....?

the first definition of 'evidence' on www.dictionary.com:

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ev·i·dence ( P ) Pronunciation Key (v-dns) n. 1: A thing or things helpful in forming a conclusion or judgment: The broken window was evidence that a burglary had taken place. Scientists weigh the evidence for and against a hypothesis. 2: Something indicative; an outward sign: evidence of grief on a mourner's face. 3: Law. The documentary or oral statements and the material objects admissible as testimony in a court of law.

there is no doubt in my mind that what Powell presented today is evidence.

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Just saw a fair amount of Colin Powells address to the UN, and it was far from convincing. From the blatantly biased first page of the Powerpoint presentation ("Iraq, a trail of deceit" or something similar), to the extremely tenuous links with Al Qaeda, the maybes about them having Anthrax (they had it once, got rid of it, they may have kept some, and made 25,000 litres of it since....), and the explanation as to why the UN inspectors haven't found anything (They're moving extremely dangerous substances on the back of lorries around the country, without them being caught on satellite etc...).

the full powell speech
part 1: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,77676,00.html
part2: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,77675,00.html

from AP http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20030205/ap_on_re_mi_ea/us_iraq_52:
"Played audio tapes of what Powell said were intercepted phone conversations between Iraqi military officers. One was a purported discussion about hiding prohibited vehicles from weapons inspectors. Another dealt with removing a reference to nerve agents from written instructions."

"Cited informants as saying that Iraqis are dispersing rockets armed with biological weapons in western Iraq."

"Presented declassified satellite pictures that he said showed 15 munitions bunkers. Powell said four of them had active chemical munitions inside."

"Said satellites observed cleanup activities at nearly 30 suspected weapons sites in the days before inspectors arrived. "

"Said Iraqi informants claim that Iraq has 18 trucks that it uses as mobile biological weapons labs. "

you dont call that proof as "Iraq, a trail of deciet" (or something similar)?

about the Iraq - al Qaeda collaboration Powell referred to senior al Qaeda operative Zarqawi as toxic expert, whose network based in north east Iraq runs facilities for training in use of poisons such as ricin.

Blair: Iraq Has Some Al Qaeda Links http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,77618,00.html
are you now going to start to call the prime minster of the UK a lier as well? where will it end? lets just start calling anyone who supports a war on iraq a lier

the truth sometimes hurts

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As for the UN inspections, I can totally understand Iraqs anger at them, the UN inspectors are ferried around at Iraq's expense, nowhere is off limits, in the knowledge that these inspectors will report back with detailed information of military compounds + defence bunkers,

so? they have to deal with it. their actions (or reactions) or not defendable, thats pretty pathetic to sympathise with someone who has committed a crime becuase you feel pity for him. of course i would be pissed if i caught shoplifting and had to pay the price for the item (maybe even spend an evning in jail if it was an expensive item or i did so with force) but there is nothing i can do, i would have to obey it. especially knowing that if i dis-obey the consequences would be even more grave for me.

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Meanwhile we actually KNOW North Korea are transporting enough Nuclear Rods to create at least 6 Nuclear weapons, and are posing a very real threat to the world. now you tell me which is more the more important situation.....

lets not bring NK into this when we are talking about an 'inevitable' war on iraq. both are important, i would even be tempted to say that i think iraq's case is more important. war is the only option left to deal with iraq that i see. that is not the case with NK

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Originally posted by DrUg_Tit0 As far as I know, Blix rated Iraq's cooperation as 4/5.

is that ok with you?
im sorry i'm so stubbern but i belive we desirve a 5/5

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Originally posted by Izzy from AP http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tm..._ea/us_iraq_52: "Played audio tapes of what Powell said were intercepted phone conversations between Iraqi military officers. One was a purported discussion about hiding prohibited vehicles from weapons inspectors. Another dealt with removing a reference to nerve agents from written instructions."

Having just watched newsnight, and listened to Iran's reply about those tapes, I wouldn't be so sure it's saying what you Mr Powell said it was, "I won't attempt it now, as it's not the place, lets say something was lost in the translation, as you heard me laughing during the tape"......
don't believe all the hype either Powell has bullshitted us before about evidence with Iraq
http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story...,889419,00.html

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about the Iraq - al Qaeda collaboration Powell referred to senior al Qaeda operative Zarqawi as toxic expert, whose network based in north east Iraq runs facilities for training in use of poisons such as ricin.

In the kurdish controlled area of Iraq, who's only connection with Saddam Hussein is that he Zarqawi stayed in a baghdad hospital to recooperate. Admitedly they do have a base in Iraq, but it's in a region not controlled by Saddam, it's controlled by the Kurds, so lets bomb them

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Blair: Iraq Has Some Al Qaeda Links http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,77618,00.html are you now going to start to call the prime minster of the UK a lier as well?

I have absolutely no doubt that Tony Blair has lied to the British Population on a number of occasions, he's a politician, it's what they do. I'll be voting Liberal Democrat next time, a party that won't sell the British people up the river......

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the truth sometimes hurts

So the truth is a few dodgy tapes, grainy videos, laughable phone conversations? get a grip Izzy

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so? they have to deal with it. their actions (or reactions) or not defendable, thats pretty pathetic to sympathise with someone who has committed a crime becuase you feel pity for him. of course i would be pissed if i caught shoplifting and had to pay the price for the item (maybe even spend an evning in jail if it was an expensive item or i did so with force) but there is nothing i can do, i would have to obey it. especially knowing that if i dis-obey the consequences would be even more grave for me.

read my sig

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lets not bring NK into this when we are talking about an 'inevitable' war on iraq. both are important, i would even be tempted to say that i think iraq's case is more important. war is the only option left to deal with iraq that i see. that is not the case with NK

I believe it is the case with NK
http://www.guardian.co.uk/leaders/s...,888374,00.html

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Originally posted by Izzy is that ok with you? im sorry i'm so stubbern but i belive we desirve a 5/5

Is English your first language? Use spell-check or something.

Keep watching Fox News, you'll be a very knowledgeable person eventually at this rate.

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Originally posted by DJ PíO Is English your first language? Use spell-check or something. Keep watching Fox News, you'll be a very knowledgeable person eventually at this rate.

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Originally posted by oDrori Yes that's great dserves a warning as well if you ask me. Demon, you have your opinions, would you mind if I post "Up yours" just because you post them?

I made a statement he called it bullshit, you want to reply to my statements go ahead. But if you do it in a manner I don't like, expect me to reply in a manner you wouldn't like.

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