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Originally posted by DJDigDug There is something about CDs that makes me cringe with anger, the other day i saw a "DJ" using only CDs he couldnt mix for shit, he was spinning rap(shit) he couldnt beat match, he couldnt scratch he sucked major ass, i felt like slapping him.

if u saw someone using vinyl and they couldnt mix for shit, couldnt beatmatch, couldnt scratch, wouldn't u slap him? "hes shit but hey he uses vinyl so ill let it go" wtf are you talking about.

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Originally posted by mikefasssy I also just don't get how you rather spin with cds then vinyl (if you exclude costs). You can't honestly tell me you would rather have the Ayu - M EP on a tinny cdr then having the actually triple pack in your hands. Fuck I think a slick slab of vinyl is one of the sexiest things in the world. To sum it up: Support the artists for fucks sake!!! Caleb

i agree withs upporting the artists, but you cant buy ayu m anymore, you can buy it on ebay (but the artist already got their cut), but it costs like over 150 to buy it, to me that is a big waste of money,

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CDJs serve one purpose, to play productions not yet pressed, any use outside of this is just plain stupid.

Not true. CD turntables are an ALTERNATIVE to turntables, as they provide almost a exact same 'feel' your talking about but in a more convenient form...CDs are lighter, cheaper, more economical, and in sense, more practical. This gives way to the production aspect you mentioned: don't take it as a purpose, but rather see it as a method.

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There is something about CDs that makes me cringe with anger, the other day i saw a "DJ" using only CDs he couldnt mix for shit, he was spinning rap(shit) he couldnt beat match, he couldnt scratch he sucked major ass, i felt like slapping him.

That's the DJ, not the turntables. Christopher Lawrence spun an entire set with only CD TTs...does that make you angry that a 'big time DJ' uses CDTTs? Lawrence is a pioneer in the American trance scene, and the global electronica community, so you can't say that just because he uses CDTTs he's not a 'real' DJ.

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Who cares, beatmatching is an art made and perfected on Turn Tables. CDs take away not the look or prestige of a DJ but the FEEL. and that is what its all about, the feel. If i had to do a set with CDs i'd feel like i had a testicle removed and just couldnt perform.

Again, CDs don't take away anything. I don't get how you came up with this idea that CDs are detrimental. As far as that testicle thing, that's your problem buddy.

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Why is it that everyone who defends CDJs are computer mixers, and people who dont mix at all who use "Well paul van dyk uses em" as their only line of defense.

I have been spinning on my 1200s for over a year. And PvD does use them.

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Finally CDJs just seem so phony. And they look pretty stupid alone, yes i said look because youre giving a show and looks are important. not as important as sound but theyre important. That is another thing average *.mp3 --> CD-R CDJs dont have much talent mixing.

This is ridiuclous. I respect your opinions and outlook on CDJs and what not, but this point your attempting to make serves no validity in your argument. This is pure opinion, and frankly, saying somthing like this, I really don't think anybody gives a monkey shit at this point after this. Where do you, or why do you say that CDRCDJs don't have much talent mixing? PvD uses them.

First of all, people and promoters dont' like CD dj's because they haven't proved the music is not stolen. If you play ripped MP3's you download online(Like I see people do here a lot), then you are a fucking cancer to the scene. It's not how well you spin, it's who you know. And no one wants to know a CD dj. Just ask around REAL promoters and DJ. DOn't ask the newbie wannabies on this site.

Records = DJ,
CD's = Mobil DJ top 40's.

The ONLY reason you should have CD's is if you are playing your own non-released tracks that you just made pre-press.

Something I forgot....

If you have your own cd library of mp3's, you could easily (yet lenghtly) convert all your track to a set bunch of bpm's (130, 140, 150) thereby making beatmatching a piece of piss.

Now, anyone who does this, is a loser, and anyone who doesnt, is stupid, because no one'll know.

The one CDJ back in Cape Town did this, but got found out, now ppl dont give him the time of day

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Originally posted by kr00t0n Something I forgot.... If you have your own cd library of mp3's, you could easily (yet lenghtly) convert all your track to a set bunch of bpm's (130, 140, 150) thereby making beatmatching a piece of piss. Now, anyone who does this, is a loser, and anyone who doesnt, is stupid, because no one'll know. The one CDJ back in Cape Town did this, but got found out, now ppl dont give him the time of day

if you set up the bpms like that, then its retarded. but dont take the negative stereotypes of cdjs, and use them on all cdj users, if someone is using vinyl turntables, and has a bpm counter, that is the exact same thing, and remember, it is not the equipment you use thatmakes you good or what not, it is how you use it, you can have belt driven tables and ifyou are good with them, you can do a monster set, you can also have 1200s and do a shit set if yous uck, again, it is about your skills, not equipment

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Originally posted by DJ-Kuza First of all, people and promoters dont' like CD dj's because they haven't proved the music is not stolen. If you play ripped MP3's you download online(Like I see people do here a lot), then you are a fucking cancer to the scene. It's not how well you spin, it's who you know. And no one wants to know a CD dj. Just ask around REAL promoters and DJ. DOn't ask the newbie wannabies on this site. Records = DJ, CD's = Mobil DJ top 40's. The ONLY reason you should have CD's is if you are playing your own non-released tracks that you just made pre-press.

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if someone is using vinyl turntables, and has a bpm counter, that is the exact same thing

Point taken, but them bpm counters are quite unaccurate, and you could still manually set them off.

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Originally posted by Masonious you win again dude - and nice move shoving the whole i figured out how to order pizza thing in my face. i tried that 4 and a half months ago and woke up with a Taiwanese transvestite but to Ygrene it's just, "anoother day in the life, noooo biggieee".

Hmm...i have 1200's and cdj1000's and i love both...I could give a rats ass about what people think of me because i use cd's. I love the music and i love to spin. Seems like a lot of you dj for the wrong reasons...like you have someone to impress or something...when you love the music you love what you're doing. I mean sure it's great when your audience goes crazy during your set but even if they don't as long as you're loving what you're doing it's ok. I mean if you totally suck then that's a different story. And about image...If you really care and complain SO much about seeing a dj using vinyl...well let me see...since i have both TT and CDJs i could easily spin just cd's and put a vinyl on and pretend like i'm using that...if you think i'm good you damn well wouldn't know which i was using. Anyway, this forum is getting a little old now...cuz it's just gonna go back and forth. So i'll end it here.

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Originally posted by kr00t0n If you have your own cd library of mp3's, you could easily (yet lenghtly) convert all your track to a set bunch of bpm's (130, 140, 150) thereby making beatmatching a piece of piss. Now, anyone who does this, is a loser, and anyone who doesnt, is stupid, because no one'll know. The one CDJ back in Cape Town did this, but got found out, now ppl dont give him the time of day

Cool... where was that?

I have been to Cape Town a few years ago.. Maybe I even went there without noticing

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