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Psygnosis
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Registered: Jul 2002
Location: Sydney
Re: Song For The Ocean Sucks.

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Originally posted by Nell
There, i said it. it sounds like he stole a PVD sounding beat, the vocals don't go with the flow of the track, the samples used in it have appeared in his previous productions i.e. dust.wav and the only good thing is the melody in the breakdown, but even that dosetn seem to fit the track. yet another day had so much more production quality to it imo. maybe some remixes will do it justice!?

dont turn this into another ligaya thread, cos its not a good production. you people who start going OMFG etc, what you really mean is that it is a new track and that dosent make it good.

start the flaming, but you know im right



Your a fucking idiot, if you say Armin used the same beat as Dust Wave which is true but how is this stealing or bad, Armin is those few Djs that ever uses the same beat and if you want to talk about PVD then you show me one song that didn't use the same sample beat he always uses..

and what do you mean he stole from PVD, PVD has stolen production ideas and created it to his standards and called it his rework *cough KLEA - Tic Toc *cough

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DJDigDug
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Registered: Oct 2002
Location: Indio, Calif. US
Re: Re: Song For The Ocean Sucks.

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Originally posted by Dj_Psygnosis
*cough KLEA - Tic Toc *cough


What about extracting vocals??


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DJ_Ballistic
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Registered: Oct 2001
Location: Sydney, Australia
Re: Re: Song For The Ocean Sucks.

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Originally posted by Dj_Psygnosis
and what do you mean he stole from PVD, PVD has stolen production ideas and created it to his standards and called it his rework *cough KLEA - Tic Toc *cough


ummmmmmmmm well see, that's not stealing, it's a re-work, he's changed it round a bit to suit his style, all he's claimed credit for is exactly that, hence the reason why it's called a rework


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Psygnosis
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Registered: Jul 2002
Location: Sydney

Im just saying to answer the question, he said Armin stole the beat from PVD, and i'm saying that if that was stealing then the KLEA remix is stealing.

AND the Magik Muzik Remix of KLEA is what PVD stole the idea from....dude i got all the KLEA remixes on vinyl and and none of them use the riff or beat the Magik Muzik uses...so PVD likes it and remixes it...whats that called.


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DJ_Ballistic
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Registered: Oct 2001
Location: Sydney, Australia

quote:
Originally posted by Dj_Psygnosis
Im just saying to answer the question, he said Armin stole the beat from PVD, and i'm saying that if that was stealing then the KLEA remix is stealing.

AND the Magik Muzik Remix of KLEA is what PVD stole the idea from....dude i got all the KLEA remixes on vinyl and and none of them use the riff or beat the Magik Muzik uses...so PVD likes it and remixes it...whats that called.



it's called a remix ffs, the bassline is different as well, like a remix of a remix, he hasn't gone and made a new song with the synth/vocals which is basically what he kept, and made a song with em now has he, which is what armin did


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Psygnosis
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Registered: Jul 2002
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Ok im confused, what is the creator of this thread saying Armin stole.


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stama
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Registered: May 2002
Location: Sydney, Australia

i dont think they are saying armin 'stole' anything, although he used samples he has already used in his earlier productions, eg. Dust.wav.

I think the whole PVD 'rework' idea is lame, a cop out.

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Mills
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Registered: May 2002
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Thinking back when I first heard the beginning of this song on his E-Mix I thought it was gonna kick into PVD - For An Angel.


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sifntj0r
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Re: Song For The Ocean Sucks.

quote:
Originally posted by Nell
There, i said it. it sounds like he stole a PVD sounding beat


thats like cheating on ur wife by sleeping with another man.


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DJ-RED
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Registered: Mar 2001
Location: Strømmen

quote:
Originally posted by TeKnoHe@d2025
The song does sound alot like a PvD tune. And if it were produced by PvD, instead of Armin, all of the Vandit wh0r3z would be making a billion threads about it, claiming it's the best shit since pre-sliced bread

I think it's funny how Armin uses the PvD sound and makes a fairly good tune (better than anything PvD has produced in the past 2-3 years). It's almost like he did it to say "Look Paul, I can use your own sound and make tracks better than you"


I got to say I totally agree with u... If it was PVD's production every one would have said it was 1337 and that is roxored.

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Asperge
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Registered: Mar 2002
Location: Leiden

Ok the track does sound like his other productions, but whatever, that is his style! In my opinion this track is good, not armin's best not his worst but okay, and I do really like the vocals!

8/10


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Biohazard
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Registered: Nov 2001
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Amazing track, one of armins best ever!

One of THE tunes of 2003

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