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Originally posted by occrider What's your proof regarding the tapping on and spying on undecidded coutnries in the UN? Also the same with the Africa thing. And the same with the Turkey thing. Finally I'm not saying anything with regards to 9/11 and Iraq. I'm not even saying we should invade them so that they won't give chemical weapons to terrorists. I'm arguing from a purely political and military standpoint. We told them the conditions that they would need to satisfy to stop the war. They agreed to those conditions then. They have not and are not abiding by those conditions. Therefore the US is not obligated to uphold it's end of the bargain ... namely a truce. We've warned them over the years to get their shit together and they've been dicking us around. It's plain and simple. Man ... don't you wish we had just accepting nothing less than an unconditional surrender back then. I hate talking about this issue.

The Turkey thing was part of the negotiations between Turkey and the US. It was that if Turkey lets bases to the US, Turkey will sent ITS troops along to where that group that has been protected by the US, where later on Turkey would take over them. Thats no news.. About the taping, is something that has appeared on various newspapers, I can give you a link of one of the sites that I got some of the info .. but this particular newspapers site is on spanish, here it is.. www.emol.com . You might check it out if you understand spanish. About the Africa thing, right, in the middle of the beginning of an upcoming war, the US helps out this african nations because of the AIDS situation, that has been in that continent ever since AIDS started. Why NOW? And wow, coincidence, this country now support the US for a led war, as well as the people of those countries.. obvious reasons.
Really, I dont like how things are turning on on either side, and I think this is the time when people are starting to see whats really behind politics, or actually whats really on the minds of politicians with their acts. Im really not trusting nor liking to what this world is heading.. it gets worst by the day.

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aaaah this shit is so pointless. its like black and white. and all the liberal, tree-hugging, socialist, democrat, hippie, activist anti-war movement freaks argue with these totally off the wall statements. hell, i'll blend in and use one myself here --> why dont you all just get the fuck up and move over to afganistan, iraq or palestine . you all might as well be terrorists.

woo hoo!! right on!!!

Finally someone who knows when its time to stop being a pussy and stand up for what is right!!! Freedom and the chance to live without the problems!

you liberalist 15 year old ignorant terrorist sympathisizers need to realize, YOUR WRONG, SO OBVIOUSLY YOUR LOGIC IS OFF, SO GO OUT AND FIGURE WHAT IT IS!!!

if america was only liberalists, they would of let afgan stay, and probobly be full of death from all the terrorists on a daily basis, making excuses about it to fill their pockets with money

SH-E

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Originally posted by shlomo_hamalech JM said: woo hoo!! right on!!! Finally someone who knows when its time to stop being a pussy and stand up for what is right!!! Freedom and the chance to live without the problems! you liberalist 15 year old ignorant terrorist sympathisizers need to realize, YOUR WRONG, SO OBVIOUSLY YOUR LOGIC IS OFF, SO GO OUT AND FIGURE WHAT IT IS!!! if america was only liberalists, they would of let afgan stay, and probobly be full of death from all the terrorists on a daily basis, making excuses about it to fill their pockets with money SH-E

.. Just look at your writing and judge yourself what you stand for and represent.

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