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Yaz
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Registered: Aug 2002
Location: Leics, UK

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Originally posted by DavidScott
I am a DJ and I spin only CD. That was not my first choice, but that is how is happened. WIthout MP3, I could not do what I do. I still support the labels and buy CD compliations and CD releases of my favorite artists. As for labels blaming MP3 downloading, that is a complete cop-out. The fact of the matter is if a label puts out quality music, then they will sell. I like many of the tracks that Bonzai has put out in the past, maybe their music is not as attractive to some as it was in the past. The same with some other labels.

You make me sick - as far as I'm concerned its people EXACTLY like you who kill these labels. You're the one making money out of the industry DJing yet you're ripping off the labels and downloading tracks then playing them and getting paid. I have some sympathy with schoolkids downloading stuff to listen to, but people like you who make money from the whole industry should buy the stuff.

I spin on vinyl, I buy all my shit apart from the odd promo I get sent and thats the way it is - it's an expensive game being a DJ unless you're a big name DJ on all the mailing lists. If you don't like it - tough shit that's the way it is. The big names also had to spend thousands of pounds on tracks before they got their big break too - no-one gets it for free. I get paid next to NOTHING for most gigs I play at, yet I spend hundreds of pounds a month buying the tracks which I play in clubs in the UK to trance lovers like myself. Why? - because I love this music and there's nothing quite like opening the seal on a new import, pulling the 12 out of the shrink wrap and placing it on the decks for the first time to play it.

As for it being a cop-out, you just wait. There are shitloads of other labels who are barely keeping their heads above water for the exact same reasons. Unless you sell shitloads of tracks ALL the time, there's not that much money in making records (I know I've produced tracks in the past myself). So you have a couple of choices - go all commercial and sell cheesy shit (which I'm sure you lot hate) or stay underground and hope that the true lovers of your music will buy and support you. Once that support goes from your underground fans, you're screwed.

I'm sure you big download fans won't be so happy when all you have left in trance is shit like Scooter and Ian Van Dahl. Or maybe you will - at least then you'll have a good excuse in saying they don't need your money.....

Mar-14-2003 22:28 United Kingdom

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onceler
Puttin' out the vibe

Registered: Feb 2003
Location: CTA #6

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All online record stores have a facility for you to listen to tracks before you buy. Alternatively listen to any one of the new live sets broadcast on internet radio that are shared round the net

First off, you have to know the track you are looking for in order for this way to work, or know what radio broadcast it is on. Case and point: Marco V - C:\Del *.mp3 <-- i know this song isnt out, but i dl's the radio rip to hear what this song was all about and see if it was something i would spin. I did the same for Oceanlab, Capetown, Sun Decade, etc.. all of which i have bought the vinyl. It is a lot easier to find the mp3 of it rather than search around to find a record store that has some shitty sample of it online.

With that being said, the reason why they are blaming it on .mp3's is because that is what killed them (allong with bad management). But, if you look at the books (which i havent) you can prob. see when mp3's began to get popular and also see how they didnt alter they way of doing business. From what I know (roommate used to own a record store), a cd is one of the most profitable items that are sold in the record store, the vinyl is one of the least profitable. Vinyl is expensive to produce and the markup isnt high where a cd is cheap to produce and has a high markup. If Bonzai / Lightning / Whoever began to rely on cd sales to keep up the business due to bad management of the lable and what was being put out, and .mp3's start taking away from those sales, you can see why it is easy to put the blame on mp3's rather than on the management. The can (and prob. do) look back at sales records and pinpoint when the mp3's surge hit rather than look back at those same records and question management on what they could have done different.

Mp3's are hurting the record industry, however, if used properly, they could be just the kick they need... i mean, how many times have you listened to a shitty sample online from satelliterecords or wherever and passed on a song only to hear it in a club or in mp3 form and go seach for that song a few weeks later. maybe i am the only one that has done this...