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occrider
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quote:
Originally posted by rupert
Now that is just plain naieve, if by most people you are refering to global public opinion.

If you are refering to american public opinion maybe you are right. Although the fact that he needed to cheat to win speaks volumes about how much politicians really value what the voters think.

Maybe so many americans dont bother to vote because they know it is a farce because the politician with the most money and the greatest hunger for power will cheat anyway. Kennedy cheated to beat Nixon and then Nixon cheated in 1968 so Bush isnt Robinson Cruso.


American public opinion: Seventy-Two Percent of Americans Support War Against Iraq Bush approval up 13 points to 71% http://www.gallup.com/poll/releases/pr030324.asp

British public opinion: The 15-point swing in public opinion recorded by the ICM survey means that there is now a clear majority, 54%, who back military action, after a sharp rise from 38% just a week ago. The results represent a sudden and widespread shift in public mood in Britain.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Stor...,921381,00.html

Australian public opinion: In the first Australia-wide poll since war began in Iraq, slightly more Australian electors disapprove (48.5%) than approve (46.5%) Australia being part of an American military force to depose Saddam Hussein. Five percent of Australian electors are undecided.

However a majority of Australian electors (51.5%) approve of the US using military force to depose Saddam Hussein, 41% disapprove and 7.5% remain undecided, a special Morgan Poll finds.
http://www.roymorgan.com.au/index.c...00560&docType=1

Let's not limit our discussion to just americans ...

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Re: Michael Moore slams Bush on fictitious war

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Originally posted by erdega
I watched this and it was a great and only interesting moment of the night

Michael Moore booed as he slams Iraq war at Oscars
56 minutes ago


HOLLYWOOD (AFP) - Famed US documentary maker Michael Moore (news) used his win of an Oscar to launch a violent attack on US President George W. Bush (news - web sites) and war in Iraq (news - web sites) amid loud boos from the audience.


AFP Photo



"We live in fictitious times," he said when picking up the award for best documentary for his anti-gun film "Bowling for Columbine."


"We live in a time with fictitious election results that elect fictitious presidents. We live in a time when we have a man sending us to war for fictitious reasons.


"We are against this war Mr Bush. Shame on you. Shame on you!," he said to loud boos from an of 3,500 including most of Hollywood's top stars.


When he went backstage at Hollywood's Kodak Theatre to face reporters, Moore was unapologetic for his outburst.


"I'm an American, and you don't leave your citizenship when you enter the doors of the Kodak Theater. What's great about this country is that you can speak your mind," he said.


He said that, far from being appalled, many people in the audience stood up to applaud him.


"I say tonight I put America in a good light," he said praising the decision to push ahead with the Oscars (news - web sites) despite the war raging in the Middle East.


"I showed how vital it is to have free speech in our country and all Americans have the right to stand up for what they believe in," he said.


Best damn oscar speech of all time. Micheal Moore is the man. Shame on you President Bush, shame on you.


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This guy is compalining that we are Beeing lied to in a way. LIKE WHEN HAS THE GOV NOT LIED AND WITHHELD LOADS OF INFO?!!??!?! STFU IDIOT THIS AINT ANYTHING NEW!!!


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Izzy
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quote:
Originally posted by rupert
Although the fact that he needed to cheat to win speaks volumes about how much politicians really value what the voters think.

following the law is not cheating. the highest representation of the law in the US is the supreme court, they said Bush had won the presidency. nobody was cheated out of anything. as soon as people realize that in the US, the law does not uphold 1 voice = 1 vote, then we can put this behind us. if you dont like it dont blame bush, go out and advocate changing the law.


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Just as I heard about what the idiot (because he is EXTREMELY closed minded... even more then some of you bloks here in the forums) did at the academy awards I got this in the e-mail;

quote:
Dear UT student, (<-- thats me)

The Student Endowed Centennial Lectureship (SECL), the only entirely
student-run organization that brings speakers to campus, would like to thank
you for choosing the optional $2 $tudent $peaker $eries Fee during
registration last fall by offering you early tickets to our Spring
Centennial Lectureship.
Our Spring Lecture Event will be Oscar-Winning Filmmaker and Best Selling
Author Michael Moore on Monday, April 14 at 7pm at the LBJ Auditorium.

Free tickets will become available to you on Wednesday, March 26, starting
at 9am at the Student Services Building (SSB) on the 4th floor at the
Student Organization Center Window. The next day, the remaining tickets
will be available to all students at four locations around campus.

To get tickets, please bring your UT ID with you, between the hours of 9am
and 5pm to this location, and you will be entitled to two tickets.

Our speaker was chosen by students in an online poll of over 8,000 votes,
including Dan Rather, Maya Angelou, John Walsh, Steve Forbes, and Bill
Bennett.


How damn gay huh? I pay my optional $2 fee to bring in guest lectures and they go waste it on this blok..... I think I will go pick up my tickets so someone else wo't be able to listen to him

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occrider
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quote:
Originally posted by Yoepus
Just as I heard about what the idiot (because he is EXTREMELY closed minded... even more then some of you bloks here in the forums) did at the academy awards I got this in the e-mail;



How damn gay huh? I pay my optional $2 fee to bring in guest lectures and they go waste it on this blok..... I think I will go pick up my tickets so someone else wo't be able to listen to him


Dude you should go and use that website I posted to tear apart his documentary! I would love for the opportunity to question his misrepresentation when he is so keen on presenting the truth.

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quote:
Originally posted by Yoepus
How damn gay huh? I pay my optional $2 fee to bring in guest lectures and they go waste it on this blok..... I think I will go pick up my tickets so someone else wo't be able to listen to him


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Izzy
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quote:
Originally posted by Yoepus
Just as I heard about what the idiot (because he is EXTREMELY closed minded... even more then some of you bloks here in the forums) did at the academy awards I got this in the e-mail;



How damn gay huh? I pay my optional $2 fee to bring in guest lectures and they go waste it on this blok..... I think I will go pick up my tickets so someone else wo't be able to listen to him



ya, yoepus, you should read that article occrider posted (http://www.hardylaw.net/Truth_About_Bowling.html), confront him and see what he has to say, we'd all love to hear about it!

once more

HA-HA


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JM
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Location: Seattle, USA

quote:
Originally posted by rupert

Now that is just plain naieve, if by most people you are refering to global public opinion.

If you are refering to american public opinion maybe you are right. Although the fact that he needed to cheat to win speaks volumes about how much politicians really value what the voters think.



yes i was referring to the american public.

as for the "cheating", here it goes.

I'm not sure if you've had a politics class in your school yet, but according to my books and teachers, there's a thing called "checks & balances" in the US Governemnt. Bush "cheating" ??? What do you think, the US is like Iraq where Saddam gets 100% of the votes? c'mon now, checks and balances ensure justice and fairness.

will you please say how Bush so called "cheated"? because i'm still not sure i know how he went about doing that....and i live in a liberal city, and i'm suprised that "they" didn't have themselves heard about this issue when Bush was elected president.

someone shine some light ova here

>JM<

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Mental Exodus
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Location: Toronto, Can
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quote:
Originally posted by JM
will you please say how Bush so called "cheated"? because i'm still not sure i know how he went about doing that.
>JM<


http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acropolis/2606/election.htm

Not the best cred but u get the idea. ITS ALL ABOUT INFLUENCE.


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well i was looking for a more credible, unbiased source...not an Anti-Bush site......well good to see one biased point of view. but i did say "checks and balances" and the supreme court had a say in this? hmmm...i dunnnnnnoooooooo......

>JM<

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quote:
Originally posted by JM
well i was looking for a more credible, unbiased source...not an Anti-Bush site......
>JM<


Biased anit bush? how????
By the way ive seen quite of few other sites that are credible who report the exact same facts, which by the way were taken from daily news reports.


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