both are before with a little bit of flexing to pop out

ive also lost 3 lbs.

Im just gonna post this again so it isnt last post of a page hehe
k here is my chest after a month of workin out


heres old



heres new June 11th

If both were taken before a workout then that's definite improvement.

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Ive started doing truncated pyramids hehe

Ill warm up with 60s then ill do a set of 6 with the 70s to get a little more stress on it. then i do 2 sets of 8 with the 80s and then drop back down to 70s and start doing sets of 8 with those.

I think I was wasting a lot of energy before with doing two sets of 10 with 70s before jumping up again. Way too much warm up.

so yeah, its been feelin pretty good, im glad there is a noticeable difference, sometimes its hard to see when you look at it every day

Someone explain something.

Everyone always likes to say Creatine builds water muscle & not solid.

Also if your trying to get cut & build muscle at the same time. Wouldn't whey protien be a good supplement all the same?

JaY

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Creatine works by osmotic pressure. It creates a super saturation of liquid outside the cell (the liquid contains creatine) and because of the imbalance the cells get injected with creatine and stuff. If you stop taking creatine youll lose some lbs in water weight, but if its actually givin you more energy or at least the placebo of it and youre working out harder youll still be creating a stronger thicker muscle fiber.

Just realize that youll lose weight when you stop, thats all.


Protein tends to pack on the lbs. When youre trying to cut its a lot of extra calories you dont really need. Id say 1 shake a day instead of the 3-5 a lot of people have would be more than adequate to supply you with what you need.

What cutting is going through and removing excess scar tissue thats making you puffy and not as densely packed. Also tends to cut into fat reserves due to the caloric reduction and same work load over all.

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Originally posted by Orbax k here is my chest after a month of workin out any improvement? heres old

looking good bro, keep up the hard work.

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Originally posted by JayD Someone explain something. Everyone always likes to say Creatine builds water muscle & not solid. Also if your trying to get cut & build muscle at the same time. Wouldn't whey protien be a good supplement all the same? JaY

creatine and whey are 2 different things, as far as i know.

whey could be said to be a good supplement, but protein from meat and dairy sources is better

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Originally posted by JayD Everyone always likes to say Creatine builds water muscle & not solid. JaY

Initially creatine will give you a gain of water weight, that's true. But the true purpose of creatine is to increase the intensity of your workouts and that is what will lead to actually gaining more muscle.

The biology of the process is this:

During an anaerobic activity (Weightlifting) your body uses ATP (adenosine tri-phosphate) for fuel. As your body goes through the exercises it breaks down the ATP to ADP (adenosine di-phosphate) and that process is what gives off the energy to fuel your muscles. So when you breakdown all your ATP to ADP that is when your muscles become fatigued and you can no longer move the weight. This is where creatine steps in and provides a phosphate for your ADP allowing it to go back to its original form, ATP. Thus you have another ATP to burn and a little more energy to get that one or two extra reps. That is where the true muscle building properties of creatine come into play.

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Originally posted by diego whey could be said to be a good supplement, but protein from meat and dairy sources is better

Generally, whey has a higher biological value than meat or dairy. Dairy is usually considered a secondary protein and unless meat is eaten raw, you denature the protein by cooking it and lower it's biological value.

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Man this thread motivates me every time I see it...When I decide to get to it, I will be hyper motivated and will work out intensely for about two or three weeks, jogging almost every day and doing a basic workout at home. I allow myself at least one day a week where I can eat junk food and pastry just so that I dont go nuts and it usually works out pretty well...

But I find myself confronted with a problem every time.... After a couple of weeks, I suddently feel a huge need to eat a lot of unhealthy food, like I wanna drive to McDonalds and stuff my face so bad, and that is usually accompanied by intermittent sugar rushes, like I gotta eat a box of cookies or several chocolate bars to calm it down... at that point I cant seem to help control myself, its like I need to eat to kill time.. I try to keep working out anyway but since I'm swallowing all those carbs I become less motivated... then I keep that up until I find the motivation to resume working out normally, but I can stay with that urge to eat shit for 2-3 weeks..

I tought leaving myself 1 day a week where I can eat pretty much what I want would do the trick, but it appears like its not enough, I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong... could it be caused by the fact that my body needs some time to adapt to a more healthy lifestyle? For I admit I've been stressed a lot last winter and ate a lot of fastfood.. and often at irregular times.

any suggestions?

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Originally posted by N|te-L|fe Man this thread motivates me every time I see it...When I decide to get to it, I will be hyper motivated and will work out intensely for about two or three weeks, jogging almost every day and doing a basic workout at home. I allow myself at least one day a week where I can eat junk food and pastry just so that I dont go nuts and it usually works out pretty well... But I find myself confronted with a problem every time.... After a couple of weeks, I suddently feel a huge need to eat a lot of unhealthy food, like I wanna drive to McDonalds and stuff my face so bad, and that is usually accompanied by intermittent sugar rushes, like I gotta eat a box of cookies or several chocolate bars to calm it down... at that point I cant seem to help control myself, its like I need to eat to kill time.. I try to keep working out anyway but since I'm swallowing all those carbs I become less motivated... then I keep that up until I find the motivation to resume working out normally, but I can stay with that urge to eat shit for 2-3 weeks.. I tought leaving myself 1 day a week where I can eat pretty much what I want would do the trick, but it appears like its not enough, I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong... could it be caused by the fact that my body needs some time to adapt to a more healthy lifestyle? For I admit I've been stressed a lot last winter and ate a lot of fastfood.. and often at irregular times. any suggestions?

what do you want to acheive from working out?

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