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Originally posted by waxHead Whatever, it'll never sell. There are a few music releases that are worth €650, such as original pressings of Joy Division, the Beatles, etc, but not some random electronic music artist. Granted, people will pay that much, but it certainly defies logic, as most releases can be had for $100 or less, by eBay standards.

Random? Now, that EP won't be sold for that price, but it could fetch about a quarter to a half as much, precisely because it is so bloody rare... and because of who the artist is. Music taste (and collectability) is all about niche interests, and Crop Circles satisfies one of those niche interests more than any other artist out there.

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Originally posted by basilisk Random? Now, that EP won't be sold for that price, but it could fetch about a quarter to a half as much, precisely because it is so bloody rare... and because of who the artist is. Music taste (and collectability) is all about niche interests, and Crop Circles satisfies one of those niche interests more than any other artist out there.

You stated most of the arguments I would've for why it might actually sell for a decent amount. There definitely are ppl who will pay quite a bit so they won't have to keep looking for a particular release, but with the digital revolution, the number of those ppl are dwindling. A few years ago, it was easy to sell most of the records in the "For Sale" section of TA for $20-$100 each, now most are lucky to sell at all. In any case, it's certainly about supply vs. demand, and if you're lucky enough to have a lot of ppl who are interested view a particular item, it might sell for a lot of money. But, even the most-wanted trance tunes don't sell for much any longer, and that's basically the point I was making.

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there is a clear difference between a track which have been pressed in a couple of hundred copies and no is rare because no one wants to sell it and a track which was pressed in 10-20 copies. that one is rare because there are so damn few of them.

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Originally posted by RebeL9 there is a clear difference between a track which have been pressed in a couple of hundred copies and no is rare because no one wants to sell it and a track which was pressed in 10-20 copies. that one is rare because there are so damn few of them.

I didn't realize I was arguing about the definition of "rare". That was not the point of my original statement, nor of my response. Where's this coming from?

And in any case, what's the difference? No matter HOW many copies are pressed, if all of them are owned and no one wants to sell them, then they're basically equally rare. Both would be damn hard to find, b/c either there's just so few of them, or no one wants to sell them.

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Like I said before, it's still supply vs. demand, no matter how you argue about it. If you're talking about the trance records I referenced in my preivous post, then the fact that no one wants them is due to supply vs. demand. At this point, there's a much greater supply than demand, so they don't sell.

The Crop Cirles cd is definitely rare b/c there's so few of them, but that has almost no correlation to how much it'll sell for any longer. All I'm saying is that there's a VERY SLIM chance it would sell for that much money, but I HIGHLY doubt it.

Feel free to try to prove me wrong, I'll find enough other examples which do prove my point.

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that no one suggested this 1 yet: Romanthony - The Wanderer (Fusion Dubb) => can be found ONLY on this release; http://www.discogs.com/release/57503

terrific track, heard it for the first time a couple of days ago, immediately browsed discogs and ebay, and found out its quite wanted. its not THAT rare, but people ask a lot of money for it.

Laid Back - White Horse (Krystal Remixes)

Can anyone tell me if that is al real rare record? How many of that one were made?

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Originally posted by DaanMc Laid Back - White Horse (Krystal Remixes) Can anyone tell me if that is al real rare record? How many of that one were made?

Try to get in touch with the artist, the remixer (Krystal), or the label. The label is probably the best place to start, since they'd have to know how many were pressed.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J The Prodigy- What Evil Lurks Fetches about £900 usually.

http://www.htfr.com/quicksearch/?text=what+evil

Currently going for £75 from hard to find. But knowing hard to find, it's most likely an MP3 press and the 'original mail out sheets' have probably just been printed off MS Word in the back of the shop.

Some of my vinyls which I think I quite rare are:


LSG - Netherworld (Jules Verne / DJ Randy mixes) Hooj Choons 52R Promo - not the full release. The full release on Hooj Choons 52R can still be bought for around £10.

Northern Exposure (UK Release x4 Vinyl)

Hi Fi Bugs - Lydian & The Dinosaur (1 sided)

BT - Movement in still life (Picture disc vinyl)

Gus Gus - David (1 sided Luke Chable remix)

2 Phat ****s - Ride (1 sided Yoshitoshi pressing)

Perfecto Presents Paul Oakenfold - Great wall (x3 vinyl) For a while was the only place to find a release of Blackwatch vs Quivver - Loveless. Also features some hard to find trance versions of John B tunes 'Electrofreek' and 'Mercury Skies'.


Edit:- I forgot about these beauties (I have too many vinyls!!)

Avril Lavigne - I'm with you (Leama & Moor remix & Dub)

Orbital - Belfast (Leama & Moor remix 1 sided press)

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Originally posted by Prototrance http://www.htfr.com/quicksearch/?text=what+evil Currently going for £75 from hard to find. But knowing hard to find, it's most likely an MP3 press and the 'original mail out sheets' have probably just been printed off MS Word in the back of the shop.

what confuses me is that the original '91 release is for sale 4 times on discogs, for quite low prices varying from 15 euro to 30 GBP. of course it could be possible that all of them are not the real '91 release, but the re-issue. so that i can understand. BUT, 7000 copies were pressed. and it doesnt have that much wants, and also, it has a pretty low have-to-want ratio. how is it possible then that its so rare, and people pay so much for it? is there perhaps 1 more release whic his the ultimate one? or was the 900GBP pure coincidence of 2 crazy (tto rich) people bidding against each other?
i dont see the fuss ...

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Originally posted by ThaMaestro what confuses me is that the original '91 release is for sale 4 times on discogs, for quite low prices varying from 15 euro to 30 GBP. of course it could be possible that all of them are not the real '91 release, but the re-issue. so that i can understand. BUT, 7000 copies were pressed. and it doesnt have that much wants, and also, it has a pretty low have-to-want ratio. how is it possible then that its so rare, and people pay so much for it? is there perhaps 1 more release whic his the ultimate one? or was the 900GBP pure coincidence of 2 crazy (tto rich) people bidding against each other? i dont see the fuss ...

Earthbound 1 & 2 don't sell for that much, but you never know with collectors... There are a lot of Prodigy fans, since they're so well-known. Look at the prices people pay for the original Radiohead "Drill EP", and similar releases by other famous artists.

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btw, isnt this a (special) collector's item perhaps; http://www.discogs.com/release/158095 ???