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Omega_Blue
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Old Post Feb-10-2007 09:20  United States
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all-nite-freak




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quote:
Originally posted by Frenchie
Thinking of you in inappropriate places I get..Tingling sensations in private locations where I wish to be caught between a rock and your hard place


I'll be coming around the mountain when i come
i'll be coming around the mountain when i come
they'll lots of celebration adn potential masturbation
and when you leave you'll get some pimples on your bum

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Frenchie
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Originally posted by all-nite-freak
I'll be coming around the mountain when i come
i'll be coming around the mountain when i come
they'll lots of celebration adn potential masturbation
and when you leave you'll get some pimples on your bum


ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhaaaahahahaaa!!!!!
Why that was so godamn funny is beyond me!!

Old Post Feb-10-2007 09:25  Canada
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Lira
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quote:
Originally posted by Theresa
Fact - sex = possibility of pregnancy.
Fact - having sex = accepting these terms.

quote:
Originally posted by Psy-T
fact - women = practically slaves.
fact - being a woman = accepting those terms.

This analogy is flawed because of one little detail: You choose whether you engage in a sexual act. However you can't really choose whether others will see you (or not) as a woman. No matter how you pretend to be a man, once you're perceived as a women, the preconceived notions of gender roles might be imposed.


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Old Post Feb-10-2007 14:21  Brazil
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distant
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quote:
Originally posted by Lira
This analogy is flawed because of one little detail: You choose whether you engage in a sexual act. However you can't really choose whether others will see you (or not) as a woman. No matter how you pretend to be a man, once you're perceived as a women, the preconceived notions of gender roles might be imposed.


That's not really relevant though. It was a mock argument aimed at Theresa's notion that men should accept responsibility because "that's just the way it is".

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Lira
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Originally posted by distant
That's not really relevant though. It was a mock argument aimed at Theresa's notion that men should accept responsibility because "that's just the way it is".

Oops, damn context


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Nrg2Nfinit
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Re: Male freedom of choice?

quote:
Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
Should men be legally able to opt out of supporting a child that is the product of an unplanned pregnancy?

That is, if a woman and a man are not planning to have children and the woman gets pregnant and decides not to abort, should the man be forced to pay child support?

Consider: once the woman is pregnant, she has the choice as to whether she will ultimately become a mother by carrying to term, but as of now (legally), the man has no choice as to whether the woman carries to term and makes him a father. Forcing him to pay child support is, in effect, holding him responsible for a decision that the woman makes, the decision not to abort.

You might say, "No, he is being held responsible for his decision to have sex!" But this is the exact same argument used in favor of forcing women to carry a child to term and denying them abortion rights: if they would rather not carry a child to term, then they should just not have sex in the first place.

The arguments are symmetrical here, but the legal situation is not. In order to be logically consistent in the case of unplanned pregnancies, you must affirm both abortion rights for women and opt-out rights for men, or deny both rights to both parties.



punch her really hard in the stomach

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Psy-T
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quote:
Originally posted by Lira
This analogy is flawed because of one little detail: You choose whether you engage in a sexual act. However you can't really choose whether others will see you (or not) as a woman. No matter how you pretend to be a man, once you're perceived as a women, the preconceived notions of gender roles might be imposed.


unless i don't remember the context of the analogy correctly, the flaw you mention is irrelevant.

edit: nevermind, i missed distant's post.


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I remember winning this thread.

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MrJiveBoJingles
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Yeah, I was glad that you and Arbiter joined in.

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Psy-T
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quote:
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Yeah, I was glad that you and Arbiter joined in.


what about me? :'(





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You too.

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