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Originally posted by selfEvolution Thanks also for the offer to discuss this at Nikita, but there is a time and place for everything, and Circus is neither the time or place to talk seriously. Forums like this, in my view are perfect for serious debate, because it either keeps us honest or exposes our distortions or refusal to understand. Circus is the place for mindless fun and care-free expressions of love and joy, and it would take too much of my strength to switch gears to serious mode when I am habitually disinclined to inhibit my youthful exuberance within such party-harty-I'm-half-retarty environmental conditioning...hehe.

I would disagree, I have had great conversations with friends and strangers at circus in regards to political or social issues, and still managed a great time. While I consider myself capable of expression through writing, much is lost that can be better explained through personal conversation. Not to mention the frequency of statements getting taken out of context without proper clarification.

As for the liberal-conservitive idea, you are completly right in your description of the narrow minded, no new facts conservitives. However i consider myself conservitive mainly at a fiscal level. There are very few social issues i would consider myself conservitive towards although you may call this one of them. But there are plenty more that i would claim to take a very liberal stance.

And I have seen great growth in my opinions due to trancaddict. There are very informitive threads, and informitive people that post here regularly. So its all in seek of new information and discovery of ones own ideas which is always benificial.

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Originally posted by djjoshuaallen I would disagree, I have had great conversations with friends and strangers at circus in regards to political or social issues, and still managed a great time. While I consider myself capable of expression through writing, much is lost that can be better explained through personal conversation. Not to mention the frequency of statements getting taken out of context without proper clarification.

haha I am with Josh on this one. I know him and I and a TON of others we all know have had quite engaging conversations and debates on the patio. It is not unusual for the lot of us.

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Originally posted by bas Dual exhaust tips on dual exhaust = QUAD EXHAUST = 300 gain in horsepower. Duh

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Originally posted by bas Undies with a dickhole aren't good for guys. Your balls can get caught in them. That's why I prefer to go over the gate instead of through the fence.

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Originally posted by JCIZZLE! How's everybody doing in any case? No body ever asks that question.

Im well LOL

need to get to the open vodka bar soon though

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Originally posted by djjoshuaallen Im well LOL need to get to the open vodka bar soon though

Lets argue about politics and get shitty at the same time, drinks are on me of course from 2-4pm.LOL Lord knows I get into it with people every Sunday, all friendly of course.

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Originally posted by djjoshuaallen I would disagree, I have had great conversations with friends and strangers at circus in regards to political or social issues.

Great for you, but we all don't have the same motivations and desires by a long shot - and it's all good. My desire and motivation at the dance clubs is to enjoy as much music as much as I can. I can't sit still for a minute if the music is good and between the three dance areas, I usually always hear something good. I'm into trance, break beats, techno, progressive house, drum and base, funkybreaks, etc. For me, 10pm to 4am is not nearly enough. At Monster Massive, friends and I danced almost non-stop for 8 hours from 8pm to 4am. I still wanted more because I never over heat nor get sweaty, and I don't do drugs nor get into drunken stoopers - but again that's a matter of motivation/desire, not so much "disagreement". I think people should do whatever they like at the clubs - I like dancing *almost* nonstop with a drink or bottle of water. On the few brief breaks I take, I enjoy joking with Tom, Josh, Monica and Justin while they're getting the drinks. Then there are the great hellos and hugs with Malia, Trinity, Don, Mitchell, Masaki, Sean, Charles, etc. - they're usually busy dancing too. If you want to have a serious chat sometime at a more quiet place where I can be both serious and friendly, email me at [email protected]

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well, surprised we havent met yet, we have many mutual friends. Soon enough i guess

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self: Ok if I knew you were who I know you are now that would have been awesome.

Josh: I can't believe you have never met him! lol him and Don were always at circus. He was always in teh back room or the main room usually.

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Originally posted by bas Dual exhaust tips on dual exhaust = QUAD EXHAUST = 300 gain in horsepower. Duh

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Originally posted by bas Undies with a dickhole aren't good for guys. Your balls can get caught in them. That's why I prefer to go over the gate instead of through the fence.

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Originally posted by gehzumteufel self: Ok if I knew you were who I know you are now that would have been awesome. Josh: I can't believe you have never met him! lol him and Don were always at circus. He was always in teh back room or the main room usually.

Thanks gehzumteufel. My apologies, but I'm not too familiar with screen names and can't readily associate them with faces. Do you have a homepage or picture gallery somewhere ?

Some of mine are at:

http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/ind...&albumId=255375

(Add about ten years and ten pounds to most of them) - LOL....I gotta start dancing more often and get back to roller skating. Of course, cutting down on the ten-pound double-dipped, chocolate-cream-filled, triple-chocolate-mousse-cakes with three scoops of double-fudge ice cream might help too. I've made a good start - with only one cherry on top from now on.

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Last edited by selfEvolution on Nov-15-2008 at 00:38

Actually I saw your pic on FB and am totally clear on who ya are.

Here I am at my best friends sisters wedding reception lol

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Originally posted by bas Dual exhaust tips on dual exhaust = QUAD EXHAUST = 300 gain in horsepower. Duh

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Originally posted by bas Undies with a dickhole aren't good for guys. Your balls can get caught in them. That's why I prefer to go over the gate instead of through the fence.

LOL I know who you are now. I think we met through aaron michael one day. Anyway, i see you at circus nearly every time im there...you always there bright and early!