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Clovis
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Registered: Apr 2004
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I really don't care enough to go into such detail when discussing this stuff...

This thread needs to die or get locked...


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JackJamOn
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quote:
Originally posted by Clovis
I really don't care enough to go into such detail when discussing this stuff...



Is that a new development?



Your participation from a day or two back seems to say otherwise.

Old Post Aug-01-2008 19:47  United States
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Mr.Mystery
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Hmm... someone seems awfully familiar.


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Clovis
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Registered: Apr 2004
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quote:
Originally posted by JackJamOn
Is that a new development?



Your participation from a day or two back seems to say otherwise.


Yeah, I just think there comes a point where it's just a waste of time to continue analyzing.


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evo8
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quote:
Originally posted by nefardec
i don't think ben's analogy was too bad


deadmau5 doesn't deejay. he performs his material live. that's his show. when pete tong asks him to do an essential mix, this is what deadmau5 does.

The problem I have is that the amount of effort and originality seems to be lacking a lot. He had a platform to show the world all his possibilities, but opted for a very conservative crowdpleasing mix. He could have written new material, crafted a very special mix from beginning to end. And guess what? He won essential mix of the year, and made a mix that people still listen to zealously. Everyone voted for this mix, because it was just simply good.

A better comparison would be Trentemoller and his EM. Obviously Trentemoller does a live show, even though he does DJ a bit. Yet when asked to do the essential mix, Trentemoller put together a very special eclectic mix of music in the manner of a DJ. He played plenty of his own material, yet adapted to the format. He played his music in context, thus giving it more meaning.

I don't like deadmau5's music, but my opinion on that is negligable. What bothers me more is the attitude he projects in everything he does, that is, he seems to take everything as a joke, or at least uses that as a convenient way to get out of criticism. His performance is absolutely filled with gimmicks, just like Girl Talk.

At the same time I can't really say he's doing anything terrible. I mean simple people will be attracted to his music, and more sophisticated listeners won't be. He's not ruining anything for me lol. I don't see him playing at the undergrounds or weeklies I frequent. He's making a lot of people really happy, helping them to get laid and take their first pill. And he seems like he's having a great time doing it, and taking home a big paycheck. He must be a happy dude.


Again the issue I have is, the EM is not the same venue. It's not the same simple crowd of people that follow his oversized, bobbing mouse head. The EM is (was) a venerable institution - some of the work people have done is incredible. I think deadmau5 had the opportunity to make something that would last for a long time, but instead took his typical approach of making something forgettable just to get/give instant gratification.


good post
as far as i know hes still a young guy, maybe in years to come if hes asked to do an EM again he might take a different approach


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Sadface
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Originally posted by JackJamOn
What I think both nefardec (though I hope I'm not speaking for you out of turn) and I take issue with is the cavalier, "fuck you, the herd says I'm a success so I'm awesome" mentality that accompanies average or poor work.

I'm somewhat curious about this "problem," because I don't really see it. He's not trying to convince you he's good, and I've never seen him use the "everyone likes me so I'm awesome" line to defend himself to critics. Occasionally he'll poke fun at them, but if he ever says anything serious its always basically the same thing: "I like what I'm doing and lots of other people like it too, so I'm happy, and I'm not going to let a bunch of people on a forum ruin it for me." Is that really such a bad attitude?

What would you guys like him to do in response to one of these threads? Apologize for making/playing music you don't like?


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nefardec
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Originally posted by Sadface
I'm somewhat curious about this "problem," because I don't really see it. He's not trying to convince you he's good, and I've never seen him use the "everyone likes me so I'm awesome" line to defend himself to critics. Occasionally he'll poke fun at them, but if he ever says anything serious its always basically the same thing: "I like what I'm doing and lots of other people like it too, so I'm happy, and I'm not going to let a bunch of people on a forum ruin it for me." Is that really such a bad attitude?

What would you guys like him to do in response to one of these threads? Apologize for making/playing music you don't like?


youre completely right.

i just think he's capable of more as an artist while still being able to make those people happy and do well for himself.

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elFreak
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Registered: Feb 2008
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yeah, this thread is over...we all know that guy j sucks more than him.

vote deadmau5 djmag top 100.


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Nearly 25,000 views....This will be my first and last post inthis thread...

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thanks.


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Redd
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Hah, I actually thought nefardec and JackJamOns discussion was worth reading, and here you come ruining it all.


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Sadface
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i just think he's capable of more as an artist while still being able to make those people happy and do well for himself.

I'll agree with that, but as he's still relatively new to the whole "superstar musician" thing I think we can give him some more time to figure it out before everyone dismisses him as a credible artist.


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