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igottaknow
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quote:
Originally posted by Joss Weatherby
That scale right now is very relative to the people observing and when and where they are.

Including you? I know they are only nuclear scientists, so we should give your ratings and opinions more weight...

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colin traveller
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Joss Weatherby
Building a nuclear plant in a region prone to earthquakes is fine. If this had just been an earthquake there would be no crisis. The issue came at Fukushima #1 when the tsunami hit and flooded out the generator rooms, which were built at ground level. The sea-wall built to protect against a tsunami were not meant to protect against one so large (remember this earthquake is considered a 1 in 10,000 year event, as in, this is not something anyone was predicting, even after expanding out and revising to over-compensate in designing that sea-wall).
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Am actually astonished that you firmly believe the risks are acceptable .. to build plants in regions that are prone to Earthquakes

Consider the tsunami was 30ft in max height reportedly .. 30ft is SFA in sailing in storm force seas as this video will show you and please notice that the flight deck sits 60ft above the water line ..and still the waves come over the top again that blows your claim that the 30ft waves is only a 1 in 10,000 year event ..

when waves of such height are a common occurance out at sea

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccn3ieux6iU

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colin traveller
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the plant is being evacuated because the risk is too great ...

taken from sky news ....press release 15mins ago


Japan has withdrawn all of its workers from the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant, saying it is too dangerous after a surge in radiation.

The decision comes after a second fire broke out in number 4 reactor after a prior blaze had not been properly extinguished.

Chief Cabinet Secretary Yukio Edano said the workers dousing the reactors in a frantic effort to cool them needed to withdraw.

"The workers cannot carry out even minimal work at the plant now," Edano said.

The latest fire is believed to have started in the outer housing of the reactor's containment vessel.

The flames were brought under control but white smoke or steam has been seen rising from the facility in the northeast of the earthquake and tsunami devastated country.

Officials have been struggling to address the failure of safety systems at several of the plant's reactors.

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Mmanu
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quote:
Originally posted by Joss Weatherby

maybe to your stupidity and uneducated fear of nuclear power.


I bet if you were living in northEast Japan right now, you'd be shitting yourself.


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The workers have returned to the plant.

Also, I'll say this again. The earthquake didn't cause this issue, the tsunami did.

Its perfectly safe to build nuclear power plants in earthquake zones. It is not safe to build their redundant systems below the water level of a potential tsunami though.

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Joss Weatherby
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quote:
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I bet if you were living in northEast Japan right now, you'd be shitting yourself.


No, I wouldn't. I am not the type to shit myself in a disaster. I understand the consequences, the probabilities, and the risks, and I react to that. That is how you survive in situations like these, not by running around like a fucking retard gobbling down iodine pills 6000 miles away from a nuclear plant that is barely releasing dangerous levels of radiation into the atmosphere.

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Mmanu
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Rrrrright. Another mass bullshit e-provider.


quote:
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Its perfectly safe to build nuclear power plants in earthquake zones.


The current situation looks very very safe indeed


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The current situation looks very very safe indeed


Well lets see... All the reactors that weren't hit by a tsunami are fine.... Kinda makes me think the earthquake wasn't the fucking problem.

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Mmanu
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quote:
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Well lets see... All the reactors that weren't hit by a tsunami are fine....


Looks very fine indeed. I'm sure it's perfectly safe too.


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quote:
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The workers have returned to the plant.


That's good news. Did they get the radiation under control then?

What source are you using for info?


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Mmanu
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quote:
Originally posted by Joss Weatherby
Well lets see... All the reactors that weren't hit by a tsunami are fine....


are you a TEPCO media rep or something ?

quote:
The workers have returned to the plant.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obHOBHDNlbs


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quote:
Originally posted by Joss Weatherby
Well lets see... All the reactors that weren't hit by a tsunami are fine.... Kinda makes me think the earthquake wasn't the fucking problem.


Earthquakes cause tsunamis. They are in a very volatile region, living on a fault line, on the water.

While I get what someone else said that it was more efficient, it's still a massive risk to take considering how likely they are to experience catastrophes like this one. I think using a safer, more expensive or less efficient source is better. All you need is one disaster to fuck up the lives of every single person around the plant... not worth the risk in my opinion.

Also, it really does leave the country vulnerable. In a case of terrorism or war, all you gotta do is blow up a nuclear plant and you win. Again... risks outweigh the benefits from the way I see it.

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