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Time2Burn
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quote:
Originally posted by contemplator
Hmmmm... But they are part of an American sports league though, and must follow the guidelines as every other team. Not everyone Canadian dislikes the league playing god bless america... And if china ran the leafs, then we should pay respects to china for running the NHL...


You make a good point... Not every Canadian dislikes the league playing god bless America. And not every Canadian approves of it either; Nor does every American or every Baseball player for that matter.

Like I said before it is my belief that sport and politics don't mix. Sure it is inevitable sometimes like the Oylmpics or something. But For the most part people turn to sport as entertainment a way to escape the realities of the world. Imposing conformity amoung all fans and players is something that should never happen but unfortunetly does sometimes.

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Originally posted by Time2Burn
You make a good point... Not every Canadian dislikes the league playing god bless America. And not every Canadian approves of it either; Nor does every American or every Baseball player for that matter.

Like I said before it is my belief that sport and politics don't mix. Sure it is inevitable sometimes like the Oylmpics or something. But For the most part people turn to sport as entertainment a way to escape the realities of the world. Imposing conformity amoung all fans and players is something that should never happen but unfortunetly does sometimes.


True, that sports is an escape in life, agreed... But an event as high in magnitude as this war, which involve deaths of civilianss, protecting your nation's justice, IMO should not be ignored by... Events like the election, and other small times issues is a different story... But I also think its a free country, and that the fans have their right to boo (rational/reasoned or not), just as we all have a right to our own opinions, and i agree with you about forcing conformity on the fans...


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Old Post Apr-02-2003 23:10  Vietnam
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Originally posted by DJ El Kay Dee
apparently, they played God Bless america or something after every inning


9 innings = 9 times .. that's a lotta Celine Dion for one baseball game !


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quote:
Originally posted by DJ El Kay Dee
apparently, they played God Bless america or something after every inning



apparently you're a dumbfuck and don't know shit
they sing the anthem before the game and god bless america during the 7th inning stretch
think or research before you fucking post next time


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ugh...you gotta be fucking kidding me...

*gives a middle finger salute to the US*



LOL...you're even stupid enough to even acknowledge this...


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Originally posted by TuanAnh213
apparently you're a dumbfuck and don't know shit
they sing the anthem before the game and god bless america during the 7th inning stretch
think or research before you fucking post next time



HAHA... poor LKD! Getting himself into trouble again over a well thought out post.

I wonder if they still did the "Okay Blue Jays" dance along to "God Bless America". They really should because THAT is a Toronto tradition!

"Okay" Crowd: "OKAY"
"USA!" Crowd: "USA!"
"Lets" Crowd: "Lets"
"Fight" Crowd: "Fight"
"Wars"

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Yah i read that about the 7th ending thing, and i think it is dumb. Why should we have to sing that song, are we American? i think the answer there is no. By not singing it are we being desrespectful, no because were the song to be sung becuase we wanted to that would be kool, but this is a joke, it is getting to the point now, were all these actions are fake, when you are forced to do something it is meaningless. They can do it in the US, if they want, if they get a song that we do not sing be sung in canada we should get a song sung there. I think the anthemns is enough.

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As Americans, we have a right to question our government and its actions. However, while there is a time to criticize, there is also a time to follow in complacent silence. And that time is now.

It's one thing to question our leaders in the days leading up to a war. But it is another thing entirely to do it during a war. Once the blood of young men starts to spill, it is our duty as citizens not to challenge those responsible for spilling that blood. We must remove the boxing gloves and put on the kid gloves. That is why, in this moment of crisis, I should not be allowed to say the following things about America:

Why do we purport to be fighting in the name of liberating the Iraqi people when we have no interest in violations of human rights—as evidenced by our habit of looking the other way when they occur in China, Saudi Arabia, Indonesia, Syria, Burma, Libya, and countless other countries? Why, of all the brutal regimes that regularly violate human rights, do we only intervene militarily in Iraq? Because the violation of human rights is not our true interest here. We just say it is as a convenient means of manipulating world opinion and making our cause seem more just.

That is exactly the sort of thing I should not say right now.

This also is not the time to ask whether diplomacy was ever given a chance. Or why, for the last 10 years, Iraq has been our sworn archenemy, when during the 15 years preceding it we traded freely in armaments and military aircraft with the evil and despotic Saddam Hussein. This is the kind of question that, while utterly valid, should not be posed right now.

And I certainly will not point out our rapid loss of interest in the establishment of democracy in Afghanistan once our fighting in that country was over. We sure got out of that place in a hurry once it became clear that the problems were too complex to solve with cruise missiles.

That sort of remark will simply have to wait until our boys are safely back home.

Here's another question I won't ask right now: Could this entire situation have been avoided in the early 1990s had then-U.S. ambassador to Iraq April Glaspie not been given sub rosa instructions by the Bush Administration to soft-pedal a cruel dictator? Such a question would be tantamount to sedition while our country engages in bloody conflict. Just think how hurtful that would be to our military morale. I know I couldn't fight a war knowing that was the talk back home.

Is this, then, the appropriate time for me to ask if Operation Iraqi Freedom is an elaborate double-blind, sleight-of-hand misdirection ploy to con us out of inconvenient civil rights through Patriot Acts I and II? Should I wonder whether this war is an elaborate means of distracting the country while its economy bucks and lurches toward the brink of a full-blown depression? No and no.

True patriots know that a price of freedom is periodic submission to the will of our leaders—especially when the liberties granted us by the Constitution are at stake. What good is our right to free speech if our soldiers are too demoralized to defend that right, thanks to disparaging remarks made about their commander-in-chief by the Dixie Chicks?

When the Founding Fathers authored the Constitution that sets forth our nation's guiding principles, they made certain to guarantee us individual rights and freedoms. How dare we selfishly lay claim to those liberties at the very moment when our nation is in crisis, when it needs us to be our most selfless? We shame the memory of Thomas Jefferson by daring to mention Bush's outright lies about satellite photos that supposedly prove Iraq is developing nuclear weapons.

At this difficult time, President Bush needs my support. Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld needs my support. General Tommy Franks needs my support. It is not my function as a citizen in a participatory democracy to question our leaders. And to exercise my constitutional right—nay, duty—to do so would be un-American.

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quote:
Originally posted by TuanAnh213
apparently you're a dumbfuck and don't know shit
they sing the anthem before the game and god bless america during the 7th inning stretch
think or research before you fucking post next time



holy fuckin bastard


did u or did u not read the word "apparently"????


shows how mature u are to decently say that i was wrong....

since when is god bless america the national anthem???


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holy fuckin bastard


did u or did u not read the word "apparently"????


shows how mature u are to decently say that i was wrong....

since when is god bless america the national anthem???


LOL Liam... You were wrong admit it!!

God Bless America was never the national anthem. They sang in respect for the troops in the 7th inning stretch. But yeah that was already said many times so...

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Originally posted by Time2Burn
LOL Liam... You were wrong admit it!!


no i wasnt...i asked u to make sure...i know that oh jose can u see or watever it is, is the national anthem..just confirmed cos dimwit earlier made it seem like i didnt know what i was sayin( typical)


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Grrr stubborn Liam:

He was refering to this post:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ El Kay Dee
apparently, they played God Bless america or something after every inning



"Apparently" you were wrong. He may have been a little harsh to poor senstive Liam but sometimes you gotta suck it up pal.

Now stop distracting me from my essay.

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