Yeah I too feel that the +4/-3 'rule' is not really a 'rule' and more like a 'good probability' choice. When using +4/-3 I find that only half the time do the mixes actually sound good.
Originally posted by rafale
Yeah I too feel that the +4/-3 'rule' is not really a 'rule' and more like a 'good probability' choice. When using +4/-3 I find that only half the time do the mixes actually sound good.
A lot of it depends on the sounds in the track not to mention scales used. Agreed, it's more a guideline than a rule. Although if using the Camelot method if you do jump up 4 you are technically using that note's harmonic. It tends to work better if the incoming track is not that busy at that point.
You can never escape the fact that you still need to know your records but see this as a short cut to knowing them.
Cheers
Nem
PS
Not trying to bash Tiesto or anything, but have you guys heard the latest In Search of Sunrise? There are some real clangers there in terms of harmonics but the tracks always lift which is sometimes more important.
Registered: Feb 2005
Location: Cork City . Ireland
hey nemesis could you plese tell me this , in this C#m (12A) what is the 12a about , it is after all the tracks keyed?? thanks, just started to try to mix hormonicly tonight and im hoping it will work out , thanks.
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Jun-16-2005 22:35
Nemesis44
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Registered: Aug 2003
Location: Brighton
Hey there,
Basically if you go to the Camelot Sound website you will find all the answers you are looking for, not to mention the fact that DJ Prince also has some good stuff on his site.
All the 12a and so on represent are basic keys. They have just made finding the compatible notes easier to find so that you don't really have to be that heads up on music theory.
In other words if you have a song in C#m 12# it is correct to assume that a G#m 11a or a F#m 1a would mix nicely with it. It's just basically to make the burden on music theory as low as possible.
Just have a look at some of the lists on this thread and pick out a few tracks that you have (assuming that you do) and try the different combinations. You will soon see what we are talking about.
Registered: Feb 2005
Location: Cork City . Ireland
you got an addie for them sites. thanks alot
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Jun-16-2005 23:10
ShadoWolf
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Registered: Apr 2002
Location: State of Trance
out of curiousity, in what key is AVB - Shivers?
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Jun-21-2005 00:26
Rockabye
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Registered: Aug 2001
Location: Hamburg
quote:
Originally posted by ShadoWolf
out of curiousity, in what key is AVB - Shivers?
I think it's 01Am -> G#m but aren't sure
Jun-21-2005 20:49
Krowster
tranceaddict
Registered: Sep 2004
Location: Dubai, UAE
Guys, would you please visit [[ LINK REMOVED ]]
They got many tunes keyed there. Very good website made by a gr8 person here called qualia.(not sure if i spelt his nick correctly)
The site is really helpful if ur looking for keyed tracks.
Enjoy
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Jun-22-2005 04:10
dj jasonF
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Registered: Aug 2004
Location: athens, greece
and you can also post samples in the mixshare forums and some1 will key them
Jun-22-2005 11:01
placebo
501xx
Registered: Jun 2003
Location: Somewhere
I'm not sure what the Keys are,
Interstate - I Found You (Original Mix)
and
Josh Gabriel - Alive (Club Mix)
Both mix PERFECLY into each other, especially if you start mixing in Alive after the first breakdown at the beginning of interstate, you get a really uplifting mix..very nice!!
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