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Originally posted by Gauss Oh. Well, that's still not a small thing to lift. Did you know Dorian Yates does dumbbell curls with 155 lbs? Btw, I take Inkospor's whey proteins, 30 grams after each training. I also take glucose via grape sugar, around 30-50 grams after each training.

U suck dude!! I'm too poor to buy supplements at the moment lol...If I started taking whey protein and nitro-tech I would be super huge in no time That dude is insane but he probably looks disgusting.

Does whey protein and all that stuff really make you bigger?

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Originally posted by Floorfiller i think this would be interesting...given what you know about your own measurements now and your perception of what you want to look like... what are your goal measurements?

I don't really have goal measurements, I just know I wanna look fit, have defined and proportional muscles, but not too big, nice chest, abs and such.
Actually, if you look a bit better better...
Muscle size doesn't matter.
It can be semi-sized, but look good if it's nicely shaped and defined.
So measurements don't really matter as long as it looks good.

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Originally posted by Michael19 Is dumbbell excercise better then barbell for growing? or is there a difference?

I don't really see big difference.
But I have a feeling barbell works better.

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Originally posted by Emil Does whey protein and all that stuff really make you bigger?

i don't think it makes you bigger...what makes you bigger is getting the proper amount of protein, carbs, and fat that your body needs...and well...protein supplements are a good way to try and reach those ratios...

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Originally posted by Gauss I don't really have goal measurements, I just know I wanna look fit, have defined and proportional muscles, but not too big, nice chest, abs and such. Actually, if you look a bit better better... Muscle size doesn't matter. It can be semi-sized, but look good if it's nicely shaped and defined. So measurements don't really matter as long as it looks good.

well i agree with all of that...but i just mean lets say you are as lean as you want to be...look the way you want...how much farther you think you got to go before you look that way...

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Originally posted by Floorfiller i don't think it makes you bigger...what makes you bigger is getting the proper amount of protein, carbs, and fat that your body needs...and well...protein supplements are a good way to try and reach those ratios...

Got ya. The only supplements I take are multi vitamins and Glucomasine/Chondrotin. I take the glu/chon because I've lost 85% of the muscle in my left quad, long story, so I take it to help me.

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What about creatine? Let's start a creatine debate. Good or waste of money?

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Originally posted by Emil What about creatine? Let's start a creatine debate. Good or waste of money?

Waste of money if you want to look cut. If you want to bulk up then I would say the contrary. Creatine makes you retain more water so I don't like it. Go for nitro-tech instead.

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Originally posted by Emil Does whey protein and all that stuff really make you bigger?

They help, but they're not nearly as "good" as steroids.
Don't get me wrong, I never did and I never will take steroids.
It's just the thing you can get 33 lbs in 2 weeks with steroids, and proteins are simply muscle food.
When you eat proteins via supplements, you eat "cleaner" form.
For example, when you eat 100 grams of turkey breast, you eat 24 grams of proteins and 76 grams of other things from turkey breast.
When you eat 100 grams of protein powder, 85-98 grams (%) of it are clean proteins, unlike 24 grams from turkey breast.
And people stereotype proteins too much.
They're regular proteins just like in food, but in cleaner and faster-absorbing form.

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Originally posted by Ibizadreamer AG U suck dude!! I'm too poor to buy supplements at the moment lol...If I started taking whey protein and nitro-tech I would be super huge in no time That dude is insane but he probably looks disgusting.

That guy didn't get big from thing he is advertising.
Unless the thing he is advertising is synthol.

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Originally posted by Emil What about creatine? Let's start a creatine debate. Good or waste of money?

Nah, don't take creatine. It makes water go into your muscles and gives them strenght and volumen, but that's not good for defintion.

Take glutamine instead. It makes your immunological system stronger and helps your muscles recover from training faster and better.

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Originally posted by Floorfiller well i agree with all of that...but i just mean lets say you are as lean as you want to be...look the way you want...how much farther you think you got to go before you look that way...

Not too far away from my current shape/look. A bit futher, but not too far away.

I honestly would like to do 2 or 3 months of steroids, imagine how big and cut you would get. But I guess if you do 2-3 months, you won't ever want to quit, eh?

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